The glorious, overindulged Gina is at it again

[freakiness]

SHe must be mighty angry about dropping a few bucks and spots on the richest list.

http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/03/07/rinehart-has-double-standards-latham

Former federal Labor leader Mark Latham has accused Gina Rinehart of double standards after the billionaire mining magnate slammed Australia for its "entitlement" mentality.

"She wants to be a bigger welfare recipient herself," Mr Latham told the Seven Network on Friday.

"She's against social welfare but she's very much in favour of business welfare for herself.

"I think that's an appalling double standard, there is no bottomless pit of money and that should apply to Gina as much as the people she's bagging today."

Mr Latham's comments come after the mining tycoon took aim at welfare recipients and the political left for spending the "bottomless pit" of revenue created by mining.

"We are living beyond our means," Ms Rinehart, worth an estimated $19.89 billion, reportedly wrote in a column for the Australian Resources and Investment magazine.

[freakiness]

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@*mrgrizz* wrote:

anyhow what does one do with $20 billion?

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She is a single woman. You should ask her on a date to find out.

[*mrgrizz*]

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@freakiness wrote:

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@*mrgrizz* wrote:

anyhow what does one do with $20 billion?

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She is a single woman. You should ask her on a date to find out.

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she is single.......well that changes everything

wonder if she would expect me to pay

[freakiness]

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@*mrgrizz* wrote:

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@freakiness wrote:

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@*mrgrizz* wrote:

anyhow what does one do with $20 billion?

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She is a single woman. You should ask her on a date to find out.

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she is single.......well that changes everything

wonder if she would expect me to pay

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Probably.  If yu do the asking it's probably appropriate to pay.  You could travel in her private jet if you book somewhere in Paris, Sydney or London

[lakeland27]

what does one do with 20 billion ? not a great deal by the look of it. imagine if were used for good instead of badness (not sure if that's max smart or tone there) the fortune in her hands is seemingly something for her progeny to brawl over rather than be put to a useful or beneficial purpose. thats genuine waste.

[boris1gary]

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@monman12 wrote:

Gina must obviously read CS, because she also said:

"The left don't want to address the issue. Instead they get hysterical and personal about who speaks out."

nɥºɾ

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Is it not personal from rinehart because she attacks thousands and thousands of people in a single speech.

[lakeland27]

there is in effect no left. australian politics are centrist essentially, the shift to the conservative right in the lnp has them railing about a nonexistent left that is really the centre. the anti-left ranting one reads and hears is the right trying to disguise the extremists dominating their side. like the tea party destroyed the GOP they may end up doing the same.

[freakiness]

The local Nat candidate is beingcalled a leftie around here  :D:D:D

http://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/2134050/candidate-wants-dope-same-sex-unions-legal/?cs=86

TASMANIA could grow its economy by legalising cannabis, same-sex marriage and voluntary euthanasia, according to Tasmanian Nationals Braddon candidate Ken Dorsey. 

This could bring tourism to the state and give it a point of difference to other destinations, he said. 

The state should research whether these measures would be viable, he said.

"Tasmania has to do something different to cutting down trees and digging holes,'' Mr Dorsey said.

"We need new industry.

"If we don't do something different here, we'll continue to have a decline in wages.

"Make the Spirit [of Tasmania] the Love Boat.''

Tasmania's attractions were not enough to convince many tourists to pay travel fares, he said. 

Moral issues surrounding legalising cannabis, same-sex marriage and voluntary euthanasia were less important than the business this would bring, Mr Dorsey said.

"We all have different moral compasses.''

Police resources could be freed from detecting and preventing petty drug-related crime if cannabis was legalised, Mr Dorsey said.

It could boost government revenue, he said.

"Should Mexican drug lords be the only ones getting rich on [the cannabis trade]?''

Tasmania's government could increase hospital beds and grow police resources using cannabis-related revenue, he said. 

[monman12]

"there is in effect no left."   here LL?

"Thatcher - ding dong the wicked witch is dead, .........she ended Britain' coal industry in an attempt to destroy a Trade Union - well done." Actually B1G  it  meant the closure of dozens of uneconomic pits costing billions to support, so yes "well done"

It would seem B1G that the AMWU when it opposed  the Toyota workers  having a say in their future (now none) were  simulating the NUM union actions in the 1984 UK coal miners strike.

It was a requirement that before strike action that there should be a secret ballot, but the Nottinghamshire branch, after a "trial" vote,  resulted in 20,000 out of 27,000 miners in the county voting against the strike. It also appeared that similar unfavourable  results could occur elsewhere so the NUM did not have a national secret ballot.

The High Court ruled that the NUM had breached its own constitution by calling a strike without first holding a ballot

The leadership presented this as an attack on its right to conduct its own internal affairs. The lack of a ballot reduced public support for the strike and made it possible for the government to use legal and police powers against the union without political consequences. It also meant that Scargill never got political backing from Neil Kinnock and the Labour Party or the TUC leadership under general secretary Norman Willis.

The AMWU  certainly emulated history:  the workers/members welfare/voice are not that important where ideology is concerned.

nɥºɾ

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@freakiness wrote:

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@monman12 wrote:

Gina must obviously read CS, because she also said:

"The left don't want to address the issue. Instead they get hysterical and personal about who speaks out."

nɥºɾ

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Who gets personal?

You must have been reading with blinkers on.

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Freaki, Ithe way I read it,  John had a very valid point - he was observingt that in using the words he quoted, Gina was parrotting the mantra of some of our more ardent right wing posters. 

[boris1gary]

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@monman12 wrote:

"there is in effect no left."   here LL?

"Thatcher - ding dong the wicked witch is dead, .........she ended Britain' coal industry in an attempt to destroy a Trade Union - well done." Actually B1G  it  meant the closure of dozens of uneconomic pits costing billions to support, so yes "well done"

It would seem B1G that the AMWU when it opposed  the Toyota workers  having a say in their future (now none) were  simulating the NUM union actions in the 1984 UK coal miners strike.

It was a requirement that before strike action that there should be a secret ballot, but the Nottinghamshire branch, after a "trial" vote,  resulted in 20,000 out of 27,000 miners in the county voting against the strike. It also appeared that similar unfavourable  results could occur elsewhere so the NUM did not have a national secret ballot.

The High Court ruled that the NUM had breached its own constitution by calling a strike without first holding a ballot

The leadership presented this as an attack on its right to conduct its own internal affairs. The lack of a ballot reduced public support for the strike and made it possible for the government to use legal and police powers against the union without political consequences. It also meant that Scargill never got political backing from Neil Kinnock and the Labour Party or the TUC leadership under general secretary Norman Willis.

The AMWU  certainly emulated history:  the workers/members welfare/voice are not that important where ideology is concerned.

nɥºɾ

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http://www.cpgb-ml.org/index.php?secName=proletarian&subName=display&art=990

Cabinet papers reveal the truth about the Great Miners’ Strike of 84/5

As another year ends, another set of selected cabinet papers from 30 years ago has been released, revealing just some of the lies that were told to workers back then.

In 1984, when the government of the late and unlamented Margaret Thatcher was running a ‘profitability’ review of coal pits in Britain in order to provoke a battle with the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM), the prime minister claimed that at most 20 pits would close and that these were all unprofitable. Arthur Scargill, then president of the NUM, said that the government had a list of over 70 pits that they wanted to close and warned that the NUM would fight all closures.

In a display of extreme understatement, when covering the release of the 1984 cabinet papers, BBC reporter Nick Higham observed: “Newly released cabinet papers from 1984 reveal mineworkers' union leader Arthur Scargill may have been right to claim there was a ‘secret hit-list’ of more than 70 pits marked for closure.”

Any way you choose to read the released cabinet papers, they clearly reveal that Ian MacGregor, the US job destroyer put in charge of the National Coal Board (NCB) by the Thatcher government, had a list of 75 pits to be closed. There is no ‘may have been right’ about it – Scargill was not only right about the scale of closures but came uncannily close to the exact number of pits in Thatcher’s sights!