Tony Abbott's Support Page

[icyfroth]

A reminder of the debt that Australia has, while Labor can bury their heads and deny it exists the fact remains we have a huge problem with debt and sooner than later the chips will fall, no business, no state and no country can keep operating in the red, eventually those we own the money to will own us. Who will own us?
The state of Qld has debt of $80 billion dollars, Labor are saying they don’t think it’s that bad, Bill Shorten on Australia’s debt, there is no debt crisis, there is a crisis and we are in this situation because of Labor, no one else and the bottom line is Labor can’t fix this problem, their speciality is creating debt not fixing debt.

[icyfroth]

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@am*3 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

Two sides to a discussion - support for Tony Abbott or no support for Tony Abbottt....a  good discussion if both views are allowed to contribute without being attacked.. Attack the topic not the poster.

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I agree. 

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Good, will see less of the personal attacks now I hope.

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Well going by one of your earlier posts, individual posters can comment according to their own opinions.

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Of course they can, personal disputes/attacks always contravene board usage policy though...

That will be for the mods to worry about. Wouldn't want to put them out of a job lol.

What is the saying? - something like if you have to resort to a personal attack you have lost the argument?

You're obviously acquainted with that saying. 🙂

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[debra9275]

I would feel bad if I behaved like that, must be to do with my good upbringing I think

[tezza2844]

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@idlewhile wrote:

This is the Tony Abbott support thread, NOT the failing diary thread so all this hate and vitriol shouldn't be on this thread it should be where it belongs on the stinking diary govt thread

The rules and regulations are stay  on topic.

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Hate and vitiol against Abbott, how about this from the Gillard haters:

1. “On what should have been one of the proudest days of Gillard’s political career, she bungled it with a less than flattering haircut and a frumpy ’80s tapestry print jacket… Get yourself a stylist your own age.” Anita Quigley. Daily Telegraph. December 2006

2. “I mean anyone who chooses to remain deliberately barren… they’ve got no idea what life’s about.” Senator Bill Heffernan. The Bulletin. May 2007

3. “You won’t need his (PM Kevin Rudd) taxpayer-funded nanny, will you?” Sophie Mirabella. Parliament. May 2008

4. “She has chosen not to be a parent… she is very much a one-dimensional person… she just doesn’t understand the way parents think about their children when they reach a particular age.” Senator George Brandis. ABC Radio. January 2010

5. “She has showcased a bare home and an empty kitchen as badges of honour and commitment to her career. She has never had to make room for the frustrating demands and magnificent responsibilities of caring for little babies, picking up sick children from school, raising teenagers. Not to mention the needs of a husband or partner.” Janet Albrechtsen. The Australian. July 2010

6. “She looks like a real weakling.” Mark Latham. Sky News. August 2010 (Latham also accused the PM of being inappropriate when she touched his chest in an interview: “The physicality of it was all on her side. I’m a happily married man and this sort of stuff I found a little bit out of the ordinary.”)

7. “Juliar (sic) Bob Brown’s **bleep**” “Burn the Witch”. Placards at anti-carbon tax Rally. March 2011

8. ”Put her ( Clover Moore, Lord Mayor of Sydney) in the same chaff bag as Julia Gillard and throw them both out to sea.” *Alan Jones 2GB radio. July 2011 (Bob Brown gets put in the same chaff bag a month later)

9. “You’ve got a big **bleep**, Julia, just get on with it.” Germaine Greer. ABC. Q&A. March 2012

10. “(Australians)… ought to be out there kicking her to death.” Grahame Morris (former John Howard staffer turned lobbyist) Sky News. April 2012

[cherry*135]

More evidence Abbott has lost too much support to remain as PM.

Australian Financial Review

Liberals ‘blown apart’ by spill push in swing voters’ eyes

Last week's internal push to remove Tony Abbott as Prime Minister has "blown apart" the Liberal Party's central proposition that it alone offered stable and responsible government, new research has concluded.

Focus group research conducted by seasoned pollster Tony Mitchelmore, a veteran of nine state and federal election campaigns, finds swing voters now have a low regard for both major parties and are overwhelmingly disillusioned with the state of politics.

The polling also found Mr Abbott remains deeply unpopular, Julie Bishop is held in high regard, Malcolm Turnbull is seen as a strong leader of the future while Labor leader Bill Shorten remains largely unknown and "has yet to prove himself with swinging voters".

Mr Mitchelmore and his company Visibility conducted the research during the tumultuous days just before the spill motion which Mr Abbott survived by 61 votes to 39. The research canvassed the views of voters in western Sydney marginal seats, all of whom had voted for Labor in the 2010 election but switched to the Coalition in 2013.

"These are the critical voters both sides of politics will be focusing on," Mr Mitchelmore said.

"They are the voters Tony Abbott and the Liberals have to keep to hold power and who Labor need to win back to regain it."

Focus group polling tests attitudes and distils the responses into common themes. Parties rely heavily on such polling to shape their messages and policy direction.

A summary of the research found a sense of disbelief and disillusionment when it became apparent the push against Mr Abbott was serious and there was the prospect of another prime minister being dumped

http://www.afr.com/p/national/politics/liberals_blown_apart_by_spill_push_nmwBkVXRDxvU6U0NC8ASxH

[cherry*135]

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@debra9275 wrote:

I would feel bad if I behaved like that, must be to do with my good upbringing I think

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Reminds me of behaviour some would exhibit in early high school age.

[azureline**]

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@idlewhile wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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You left out a few things........................... all lawyers do pro bono work, perhaps Gillard didn't want accolades for community work and didn't advertise them?

 Perhaps doesn't make it so...

Mr Abbott has an illegitimate child (he didn't pay maintainance for?)........... Gillard none.

Mr Abbott has no illegitimate child. Get your facts right.

Gillard didn't support a priest who was accused (convicted?) of molesting children................. good thing she is an atheist some would say.

Instead she invited a convicted fraudster and known sexual predator to become Speaker of the House.

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Abbott hate is sickening on here. If a fraction of the hate and offensive graphics  posted were from others the screams would be heard in Moscow.

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He thought he had one though until said child was an adult.... so effectively the same thing, he didn't pay maintainance.

[cherry*135]

I haven't seen any offensive graphics with Abbott in them either. Critiicism of a current Govt, isn't 'hate... it is criticism.

That Tony Abbott/ Julia Gillard table has been debunked on CS before. (originates from facebook).

[gleee58]

Gillard didn't support a priest who was accused (convicted?) of molesting children................. good thing she is an atheist some would say.

Instead she invited a convicted fraudster and known sexual predator to become Speaker of the House.

No, she did not.

It's rather insightful that some people seem to consider misusing a travel allowance (which protocal allows repayment of) more serious than child sex abuse.

At the time he was speaker Mr Slipper had not been convicted of anything.  Only after he dumped the LNP and became speaker did his friends see fit to set him up with a willing sex stooge and tell the world he was a shady character. And only after he became speaker did they go through his diaries looking for errors they could report him to police for, before allowing him the chance to repay.  Do you think the LNP might still pay poor James Ashby's upwards of $3million dollar legal fees, as promised?

[poddster]

But But But JOOLYA!! said that Craig Thompson had her full support did she not?

What short memories you Lefties has.

 

[debra9275]

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@gleee58 wrote:

Gillard didn't support a priest who was accused (convicted?) of molesting children................. good thing she is an atheist some would say.

Instead she invited a convicted fraudster and known sexual predator to become Speaker of the House.

No, she did not.

It's rather insightful that some people seem to consider misusing a travel allowance (which protocal allows repayment of) more serious than child sex abuse.

At the time he was speaker Mr Slipper had not been convicted of anything.  Only after he dumped the LNP and became speaker did his friends see fit to set him up with a willing sex stooge and tell the world he was a shady character. And only after he became speaker did they go through his diaries looking for errors they could report him to police for, before allowing him the chance to repay.  Do you think the LNP might still pay poor James Ashby's upwards of $3million dollar legal fees, as promised?

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yeah that's pretty pathetic Glee when everyone knows Slipper was an LNP member for most of his career

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Slipper

Peter Neil Slipper (born 14 February 1950) is a former independent member of the Australian House of Representatives, representing the Division of Fisher, Queensland, a seat he held from 1993 until his defeat in 2013. He previously represented the same division for the Nationals from 1984 to 1987. Slipper was affiliated with the Liberal Party's Queensland division from 1993 until its merger with the Nationals' Queensland division to form the Liberal National Party of Queensland in 2008, continuing to sit in the federal Liberal Party room until he became an independent upon his election as Speaker in 2011.

so in actual fact the Libs knew more about his behaviour than Gillard did, until the Libs decided to use it against him.  I think sometimes people just say things because it sounds good, the facts tell a different story