Tony Abbott's Support Page

[icyfroth]

A reminder of the debt that Australia has, while Labor can bury their heads and deny it exists the fact remains we have a huge problem with debt and sooner than later the chips will fall, no business, no state and no country can keep operating in the red, eventually those we own the money to will own us. Who will own us?
The state of Qld has debt of $80 billion dollars, Labor are saying they don’t think it’s that bad, Bill Shorten on Australia’s debt, there is no debt crisis, there is a crisis and we are in this situation because of Labor, no one else and the bottom line is Labor can’t fix this problem, their speciality is creating debt not fixing debt.

[cherry*135]

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@vicr3000 wrote:
POLLS SHOW SUPPORT FOR ABBOTT JUMPS TO WITHIN STRIKING DISTANCE OF LABOR

49. - 51

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There is more to it than that - 

However, it represents a 4.5 per cent anti-Coalition swing since the 2013 election, meaning it would have lost as many as 24 seats.

Also concerning for Mr Abbott and his supporters is the finding that more voters would still prefer to see former Liberal leader Malcolm Turnbull returned to the top, rating him more highly in all 10 of the leadership attributes surveyed in the poll.

The Communications Minister enjoys a 20 percentage point lead over Mr Abbott among all voters (39 to 19) and deputy leader Julie Bishop is also ahead of Mr Abbott (24 to 19). 

In a telling result, just 21 per cent of voters believe Mr Abbott enjoys the confidence of his party - a 32 per cent plunge in a year. 

Half of all voters (52 per cent) believe Mr Turnbull has the support of his colleagues.

The national poll of 1406 voters shows the government making up serious ground on the Labor opposition and Mr Abbott's personal standing also recovering markedly, although he still trails as preferred prime minister against Labor leader Bill Shorten.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/tony-abbott-thrown-lifeline-in-fairfaxipsos-po...

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@vicr3000 wrote:
Look it up.

Since you lot are such good searchers LOL

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I guess you mean the phone poll by Fairfax/Ipsos poll 26-28 February 2015, 1406 respondents, Margin of error +/-2.6%.

So if you apply the margin of error in a way to suit anyone's arguement then labor is leading  about 54 to 46 which is pretty well on par with other polls:

Australian newspaper Taken 24th Feb. Labor 53 to 47
Galaxy Poll Taken 5th Feb Labor 57 to 43
Essential Report Taken 24th Feb Labor 53 to 47
Morgan Poll Taken 22nd Feb Labor 56 to 44

[vicr3000]

Soemthing must have changed because the previous poll was 54 - 46 with same margin for error and same numbers polled.

I see you forgot to mention that.

LOSEE's Welfare 1 has gone off on a tangent again.

[vicr3000]

I did like this. It just shows that Shorten has been taking it easy, riding the wave.

Now that the polls suggest the LNP are coming back up, it looks like Shorten and Labor might actually

have to do some work for once !

"For Bill Shorten's Labor opposition, the message in the poll recovery is also clear: government unpopularity

has taken it as far as it will go, From here, policy and substance are required."

Bad policy maybe, substance might be taking it a bit far

One's the clown, the other looks brain dead !

 

[i-need-a-martini]

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@vicr3000 wrote:
POLLS SHOW SUPPORT FOR ABBOTT JUMPS TO WITHIN STRIKING DISTANCE OF LABOR

49. - 51

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Incorrect.

Polls show the Liberals are within striking distance of Labor. But not thanks to Abbott.

It shows that 72% of people believe he does not have the confidence of his party and will be gone by next election.The figures have been bouyed up because the people polled are making the assumption that Abbott will be replaced by Turnbull.

The poll shows he trails behind Turnbull, Bishop and Shorten as preferred prime minister.

The poll also shows he rated in the negative for ALL questions which asked about 'positive attributes needed for a leader' and it showed that he is now being deserted by his die hard, conservative voters.

Get your facts right before making broad incorrect statements vic.

[vicr3000]

I need

Go back to your Govt thread.

FOC

[vicr3000]

Shorten thinking about Policy.

Doh !

[idlewhile]

The intergenerational report is a forward looking report on how we are tracking into the future and what policies are in place now, that will harm future generations, therefore bringing into play the grandfather clause.

We need this report to put in place policies that ensure we can afford to maintain our quality of life, protect medicare and health institutions, education trajectory and other govt funded  institutions.

The consensus seems to be, rather than reform the budget, which it so badly needs , it will never happen with Labor and the Greens blocking policy, so what I think will happen is some welfare policies and other structural  reforms, that the left cannot bring themselves to reform will be grandfathered and any new reforms will not carry those old policies forward. 

The $50 billion a year on welfare cannot be maintained and going forward that is only going to balloon even further to the extent that it will swallow the whole budget. This is what we are facing.

That way the people who are the recipients of unaffordable welfare largess, that Labor will not reform, will not lose that welfare.

Everybody agrees  Australia needs urgent structural budget reform and many are wondering when Labor will acknowledge it.

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@vicr3000 wrote:

Shorten thinking about Policy.

Doh !

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Is that a "pie hole"?

[vicr3000]

Idle

They love to paint Abbott as out of touch with the the population.

A common tactic of the extreme left, the same one's who have caused the

decay of social fabric and order that we see, such as take care of yourself

and family, accept responsibility for your actions, don't be a criminal ........

No wonder society is stuffed, people do what they like, get a slap on the wrist

and hey presto, it's all OK, you can go out and re offend and do it on welfare !