Tony Abbott's Support Page

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A reminder of the debt that Australia has, while Labor can bury their heads and deny it exists the fact remains we have a huge problem with debt and sooner than later the chips will fall, no business, no state and no country can keep operating in the red, eventually those we own the money to will own us. Who will own us?
The state of Qld has debt of $80 billion dollars, Labor are saying they don’t think it’s that bad, Bill Shorten on Australia’s debt, there is no debt crisis, there is a crisis and we are in this situation because of Labor, no one else and the bottom line is Labor can’t fix this problem, their speciality is creating debt not fixing debt.

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@vicr3000 wrote:

I heard a good one yesterday.

RFDS is known as the Aboriginal Taxi Service.
Someone wants to go to town, "someone" gets ill and they
all pile in for the trip !

I know that aircraft and free flights are provided to fly them to town when they need to go to town. And some one subsidises flights by pastors etc to remote communities, islands.

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Sorry about the accidental kudo but this pracrice is not limited to one class of people. I do recall a certain politician arranging a flight and overnight accommodation to a appear at a Victorian charity so he would not have pay expense to attend a Liberal Party function. 

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@vicr3000 wrote:

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How far out of town from Wilcannia ?

Wilcannia isn't remote.

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You are right - it isn't remote for a white guy in a 4 wheel drive. 

The settlement we stayed at was a 2 hour bumpy drive in from the Barrier (?) Highway on what was possibly a road once.

But the point that you miss is that indigenous communities (like the one above) are fairly traditinal. There are no cars. No shops. They could be 50km from Broken Hill and it may as well be an 8 hour one way trip. I don't think you quite understand how isolated traditional communities are.

[vicr3000]

I fully understand how remote these places are, I've been to quite a lot of them including wilcannia.

Haven't done the NW Corner of NSW.

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Spoiler

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@tezza2844 wrote:

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@vicr3000 wrote:

I heard a good one yesterday.

RFDS is known as the Aboriginal Taxi Service.
Someone wants to go to town, "someone" gets ill and they
all pile in for the trip !

I know that aircraft and free flights are provided to fly them to town when they need to go to town. And some one subsidises flights by pastors etc to remote communities, islands.

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Sorry about the accidental kudo but this pracrice is not limited to one class of people. I do recall a certain politician arranging a flight and overnight accommodation to a appear at a Victorian charity so he would not have pay expense to attend a Liberal Party function. 

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Forgot to add:

theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/27/tony-abbott-under-pressure-over-melbourne-travel-expenses

The article starts off :

The Prime minister’s office not denying allegation Abbott used cancer hospital visit to justify billing taxpayers for fundraiser trip

Tony Abbott is said to have told colleagues he scheduled the hospital visit to justify being in Melbourne under entitlements.

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@vicr3000 wrote:

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And why take the funding away from remote indigenous communities? I am sure there are thousands of regional 'towns' draining the public purse. Many of them with less inhabitants than your average indigenous community. Let's close these towns down instead shall we? Imagine the money we would save on roads, public transport, garbage colection, water and electricity infrastructure.

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The difference is, if it were a White regional town, Whites living there would have to pay for it all. 

Really? They pay for the highway. Even in a 'white' community that has 60% unemployment?

If it is an Aboriginal "town", the Gov't pays for it.

I hate to burst your bubble, but the government pays for your infrastructure and you probably live in a city. It is what governments do for its citizens.

I think you have visted some of the less fortunate Remote communities.

I have visited a range. You think I missed the 5 star ones do you? Lol. I must track these ones down.

And as for "sending a doctor out once in a while", in NT they DRIVE or FLY them to Darwin at Gov't expense

IF the local clinic/doctor can't handle it. And if not Darwin, fly them to Adelaide. My friend did that.

Ever heard of the Flying Doctors? Doesn't matter if you are white or black, whether you live in a town of 50, a community of 500 or on a station with just you and the missus - they fly in a doctor to set up a clinic and will even make a special trip if you need it. And they will fly you out when you need to get out.

Don't make it sound as if indigenous people are getting special treatment in this arena cause that is BS.

Education - Remote learning, then they fly the people down to Geelong twice a year for 2 weeks,

put them up in accomodation, feed them, everything laid on.

(I spoke to one of the students up in NT who told me that was what they did, Gov't paid for it.)

You mean like School of the Air? A government funded system available to ALL Australians?

See my last night for the previous point.

About the only thing Aboriginals seem to pay for is Food, drink, smokes and car and petrol if they have one.

The rest is provided by the Gov't, to the tune of $100,000 a year PER PERSON.

Oh, and the money they spend on "Food, drink, smokes and car and petrol" is welfare from the Gov't.

Proof??

The communities I spent time with were fairly mixed. Like any outback community there aren't jobs. Indigenous people (like white people living in remote areas) take jobs as they can get them. Many of the men were employed on the large stations away from their families. 

Traditional arts sustain quite a significant proportion of the women.

If I want to live in the middle of woop woop, then I pay the price. if Aboriginals want to live there,

the Gov't provides no end of help and money for things.

you seem to have forgotten that it is their own land they are living on.

If it's available to them, it should be available to all of us.

It is. 

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@vicr3000 wrote:

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I love the black history. Spend hours reading it.

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I suspect there are a few (actually many) gaps in your reading repertoire...

[vicr3000]

I am not talking infrastructure. I am talking houses. Gov't built and paid for.

Education

you are ignoring my point. If I live up NT, they won't pay for my flights.

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@vicr3000 wrote:

I fully understand how remote these places are, I've been to quite a lot of them including wilcannia.

Haven't done the NW Corner of NSW.

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It isn't Wilcannia that I am suggesting is remote.

[vicr3000]

If it's available to them, it should be available to all of us.
It is."


"I suspect there are a few (actually many) gaps in your reading repertoire..."

And likewise, I suspect there are gaps in yours.


Not everything is.

as per comment re flights.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@vicr3000 wrote:

I am not talking infrastructure.

I am talking houses.

more later

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Huh?

Is this what you think the government pays for? One of the reason I went out to the settlement in Wilcannia is to help a friend document indigenous architecture. You do realise that many of them still live in humpys and tents?? The Wilcannia settlements is quite well known for its 'tin-shed' housing.

Yeah - must cost the tax payer HEAPS to 'house' people in settlements.