Tutors

[donnashuggy]

I don't know if this is true but I hear a lot about it

For the record my children have never had a tutor, not because I was unwilling, it was offered to them.

I hear stories about children that were tutored heavily in years 11 and 12 and it helped them. But I have heard stories about tutors writing their essays and the list goes on.

My question is, does it create more university dropouts because these students are not really capable of doing the work themselves? Or is that a myth? Am I able to exclude Asian students from the example, as I know someone is bound to mention that they are also heavily tutored and have good success rates of continuing at uni.

[i-need-a-martini]

Uni drop outs are higher with kids who were tutored for 2 reasons:

Firtsly, often they are in courses that their parents pushed them towards. They have no interest so they either switch courses or get pushed out due poor results.

Secondly, they are most likely to be the kids that do not pass subjects. That was certainly my experience tutoring them. As I menioned before, these kids are the ones that topped their high school grades/HSC and suddenly they are on their own. They consistently sit at P grades in their undergrad courses.

I can pick a tutored student a mile away. They go through the course scared to death. They withdraw to small groups, don't participate, they are the ones most likely to plagiarise someone elses work and they are the ones most likely to fail a subject.

[cherry*135]

How do you know that?

Have the all Uni's in Australia surveyed all the dropouts and complied & published statistics on why they dropped out?

I agree that children drop out of Uni or change degree if their parents chose which one they should first enrol in. That doesn't mean they ALL had extensive tutoring.

Uni requires more work to get good grades than school does, some students are just lazy/can't be bothered with putting in the effort.

I did a subject that had a 45% fail rate.. were the majority of those failed, ones who had extensive tutoring? It was a very difficult subject.

The lecturer quality or lack of, had a bit to do with the fail rate also.

[just_me_karen]

How do you know that, a3? Can you show me a link please.

[donnashuggy]

I agree that children drop out of Uni or change degree if their parents chose which one they should first enrol in. That doesn't mean they ALL had extensive tutoring.

Nobody said they ALL DID 🙂

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

Why presume that all children who get tutored have been forced to?

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[cherry*135]

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@siggie-reported-by-alarmists wrote:

Why presume that all children who get tutored have been forced to?

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Exactly, a lot of presumptions and  ' I heard' in this thread regarding claims that extensively tutored students can't cope and drop out when they go to Uni.

Anyway, what does it matter to us? If parents want to/are able to pay big $$ for extra/extensive tutoring of their children and those children drop out of Uni because they can't cope.. doesn't affect anyone except that young person and that families bank account.

[siggie-reported-by-alarmists]

Those presumptions just make the OP appear jealous.....

[cherry*135]

.. could be right there...

[icyfroth]

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@ca04 wrote:

They were the other side in the war of the roses.

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the coveted five laughy-face award.

I was waiting for someone to throw that play on the word in!

(I was nearly going to make a similar comment but I didn't want to look like a BLONDE!)