Unhinged Vitriolic Speech

[silverfaun]

This disgusting swan song from a Green was lauded on here as a milestone and a rival to Gillards misplaced misogyny rant.

The people who support this type of hate speech are not indicitive of the wider Australian people and to applaud this type of hate  is appalling.

I will stand up to this type of thing and so will the majority of Australians. This person is not fit to be in parliament and he should be rejected wholeheartedly by everyone, which he will be come the WA re election, and good riddance to him and his ilk:

SPORTING dark suit and speaking in a calm, measured tone, Scott Ludlam is the acceptable face of the Greens.

He has spoken out previously against the “people’s revolt” against the carbon tax that sparked the “Ditch the Witch” nastiness.

Ludlam’s style is the antithesis of histrionics such as the current appalling rock concert concoctions of a fake prime ministerial beheading.

This week the West Australian senator rose to a near-empty chamber and delivered a prepared speech without raising his voice and with no one around to interject. Later, the 7 1/2-minute speech went viral on YouTube, a hit with the young Green Left crowd, attracting 400,000 hits within a few days.

But forget the style of the speech; it merely disguised a message that was divisive, vindictive and in the end subversive.

“We want our country back,” he said, just six months after a federal election. This is a senator who, with his colleagues, holds the balance of power in the Senate on about 10 per cent of the vote.

Yet he told supporters they were somehow disenfranchised.

Ludlam spoke of “predator capitalism” and a “murderous horror unfolding on Manus Island” as he launched an attack on the Prime Minister and his government. He suggested Abbott treated WA as a “caricatured redneck backwater” and that it was “kind of revolting” that the Prime Minister consulted with “mining billionaires and media oligarchs on the other side of the world”.

Ludlam provided no serious evidence or justification for his slurs. He even talked about Abbott - who I first met 20 years ago through a mutual gay friend and who has been publicly loving and supportive of his gay sister - as “waving (his) homophobia in people’s faces”.

We know the Greens are a party of protest but this invective was simply hateful.

“Prime Minister,” said Ludlam, “you are welcome to take your heartless and racist exploitation of people’s fears and ram it as far from Western Australia as your taxpayer-funded travel entitlements can take you.”

So Ludlam used the Senate to denigrate a freshly elected Prime Minister who is implementing his agenda - to the extent that he isn't blocked by Ludlam’s party - as racist, cynically manipulative, heartless and exploitative.

On what evidence?

This vitriol is subversive because it suggests a democratic government has somehow stolen the country. If Ludlam and his supporters want their “country back” surely the way to do it is through fair-minded criticism and a viable alternative.

No matter how calmly it is presented, unhinged hatred can’t help anyone.

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Meep, I may have said that I find the way those girls where used like sales props disgusting .

That is my opinion.It was the act itself and the way it all looked which I see as disgusting.If sharing my opinion on that act is thought by any other Australians to be disgusting...tough .I didn't commit the act itself .

[freakiness]

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@**meep** wrote:

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@freakiness wrote:

The only comments about Abbott's family have been about how he use them to futher his purposes, that I've seen or made anyway..  

Did I miss the ones about his wife being a gay.

He's the one who carted his daughters around in white dresses telling people to vote for him because his daughters are attractive. He's the one who said some women deserved to be elected because of her good looks.  If there are complaints or people having a dig about that it's his own fault.

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I think you must have missed that and a whole lot more because I cannot imagine you justifying it, I really can't.

There have been comments/innuendos made about Mr Abbott, his wife and daughters that were truly disgraceful.  

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If someone asked him if his wife is gay I did miss it. I haven't seen anything like the sexist smear that Gillard was attacked with.  Nor have I seen any attacks on his daughters, only on him for using them the way he did.

Do you have any links?

I think the way he paraded his daughters around in white as a tool to help boost his chances was questionable.  However, it is the way he is.  He just doesn't get it that women are not adornments, first and foremost.

[**meep**]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

Meep, I may have said that I find the way those girls where used like sales props disgusting .

That is my opinion.It was the act itself and the way it all looked which I see as disgusting.If sharing my opinion on that act is thought by any other Australians to be disgusting...tough .I didn't commit the act itself .

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No, not that.  I may have disagreed with you about that but it is not at all what I am referring to.

I will try to find and bump a few old threads (LOL) to refresh your memory

[**meep**]

Yes Freaki.....we have determined that you haven't seen any, I'm not going to argue about that lol......and no, I'm not posting any links.

[icyfroth]

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@**meep** wrote:

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@izabsmiling wrote:

Meep, I may have said that I find the way those girls where used like sales props disgusting .

That is my opinion.It was the act itself and the way it all looked which I see as disgusting.If sharing my opinion on that act is thought by any other Australians to be disgusting...tough .I didn't commit the act itself .

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No, not that.  I may have disagreed with you about that but it is not at all what I am referring to.

I will try to find and bump a few old threads (LOL) to refresh your memory

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you could start with this one:

@spotweldersfriend wrote:
Is Tone's father still around or has he 'died of shame'?

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IC: "The "father dying of shame" comment was not made by Mr Abbot and was roundly condemned by all parties at the time it was made by Mr Jones. He was made to apologise publicly about it.

To bring it into a discussion now with reference to Mr Abbot's father is just as despicable. As is derogatory reference to his daughters and wife."

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@**meep** wrote:

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@izabsmiling wrote:

Meep, I may have said that I find the way those girls where used like sales props disgusting .

That is my opinion.It was the act itself and the way it all looked which I see as disgusting.If sharing my opinion on that act is thought by any other Australians to be disgusting...tough .I didn't commit the act itself .

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No, not that.  I may have disagreed with you about that but it is not at all what I am referring to.

I will try to find and bump a few old threads (LOL) to refresh your memory

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OK.He made a designed sales pitch to us the audience (we being the Australian voting public) ..we were the targets of this sales pitch .He and other MP's and paid members of the Coalition knew that there were issues regarding his attitudes about women and still he did this which of course with some of those in his audience did the exact opposite of what he may have hoped for.

Still the man is now our PM...he should be a strong enough individual to listen to how his sales pitch came off to any and every Australian.

LOL if you start doing that ...there are far more examples and threads which could be bumped in relation to our former Government.It would take up pages and pages

[freakiness]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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you could start with this one:

@spotweldersfriend wrote:
Is Tone's father still around or has he 'died of shame'?

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IC: "The "father dying of shame" comment was not made by Mr Abbot and was roundly condemned by all parties at the time it was made by Mr Jones. He was made to apologise publicly about it.

To bring it into a discussion now with reference to Mr Abbot's father is just as despicable. As is derogatory reference to his daughters and wife."

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Oh please, it was a bit of irony. Not in the best taste but hardly having a go at his family.

No, Abbott did not rush to make Jones apologise.The only reason Jones apologised is because of the social media backlash and then the apology was not at all sincere.  Abbott also stole and modified the line to attack Gillard with.

[**meep**]

well its either that or c&p the comments here......

[izabsmiling]

you might be safe to do that Meep...

I know that in the past I have done similiar to show offensive,racist,extreme right right style posts ...

and while the orginals stayed (which was my point at the time..that they remained)...my posts contained profanity,vulgarity,hate blah blah 

[icyfroth]

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@freakiness wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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you could start with this one:

@spotweldersfriend wrote:
Is Tone's father still around or has he 'died of shame'?

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IC: "The "father dying of shame" comment was not made by Mr Abbot and was roundly condemned by all parties at the time it was made by Mr Jones. He was made to apologise publicly about it.

To bring it into a discussion now with reference to Mr Abbot's father is just as despicable. As is derogatory reference to his daughters and wife."

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Oh please, it was a bit of irony. Not in the best taste but hardly having a go at his family.

No, Abbott did not rush to make Jones apologise.The only reason Jones apologised is because of the social media backlash and then the apology was not at all sincere.  Abbott also stole and modified the line to attack Gillard with.

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Reference to Mr Abbott pimping his daughters for his election campaign has been made on other occasions by other posters here. They know who they are.

I agree the "father dying of shame comment" made by Alan Jones, whom I incidently loathe with a passion, was disgusting and outrageous. Not good form for Mr Abbott to use it later in a modified form later in parliament either.

But I've never seen him attack any member of her family or her partner.