on โ13-10-2014 06:43 PM
These comments on the Pravda website.
Many more comments too. I'm sure many Australians, though not all, are very disappointed to have our country's leader spoken of this way. I've read lots of derogatory comments from various news websites from around the world and it seems he has trashed the position and how we are viewed by many other countries. And I stress not every country is knocking him but enough to know that he is not popular.
"Tony Abbott said today that he will "shirtfront" Russian president Vladimir Putin when the pair meet at the G20 meeting in Brisbane next month." Is this seriously how we treat other world leaders? What happened to open dialogue and discussion?
We were once so admired for our leaders as statesmen, from both sides of politics. Tony Abbott has brought much criticism and shame and embarrassment to the position. No matter what side of politics, the position of Prime Minister should be held with respect but when we have one in the position who bullies and insults world leaders, then it is their prerogative to comment.
It is going to take some doing to win back the respect we once held.
on โ14-10-2014 11:39 AM
@karliandjacko wrote:
@*julia*2010 wrote:everyone knows that putin
plays by the rules o.O
I don't give a rats about Putin but I am concerned that the PMs words will tell kids it's ok to solve their problems with violence.
and thats its OK to accuse, judge and find guilty based on nothing but hot air and bluster - I suppose this kind of thinking fits in with the new asio laws.
on โ14-10-2014 11:40 AM
Mr Shorten said yesterday there was evidence to indicate "indirect, if not direct, Russian involvement in the shooting down of this plane".
"It was an act of murder. I believe Putin knows more about what happened with MH17 than he's let on," Mr Shorten said.
what evidence is he talking about?
on โ14-10-2014 12:20 PM
Oct 2013
Vladimir Putin gives late Tony Abbott cold shoulder at APEC
Has a new iron curtain dropped between Russia and Australia?
That's the assessment of a senior official who observed Russian President Vladimir Putin's treatment of Prime Minister Tony Abbott during one of the main leaders' meetings at the APEC summit in Bali.
Mr Abbott turned up about seven minutes late after a meeting with Canadian counterpart Stephen Harper overran.
The prime minister entered the room as Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono was giving his opening address.
Mr Abbott was seated next to Mr Putin, but a senior official attached to another APEC nation's delegation, who was present at the meeting, said the Russian leader was frosty.
"There was no engagement, no acknowledgement, an iron curtain," the official said.
Television footage of the first section of the meeting shows Mr Putin did not look at Mr Abbott.
on โ14-10-2014 12:22 PM
Oct 2014
on โ14-10-2014 01:16 PM
What i don't understand is why no outrage and condemnation from abbott about what we do know - that the airline was warned that the airspace over the Ukraine was not safe and yet because it was cheaper they chose to go that way anyway.
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But before the MH17 crash, security concerns closed Ukrainian airspace.
The US Federal Aviation Administration issued a "special notice" regarding Ukrainian airspace advising airlines to "exercise extreme caution due to the continuing potential for instability" and Eurocontrol warned pilots and airlines to avoid Ukrainian airspace due to serious risks. Aviation experts last night said operators continued to fly across the zone because it was the quickest and cheapest route for some flights.
on โ14-10-2014 01:19 PM
@*julia*2010 wrote:Mr Shorten said yesterday there was evidence to indicate "indirect, if not direct, Russian involvement in the shooting down of this plane".
"It was an act of murder. I believe Putin knows more about what happened with MH17 than he's let on," Mr Shorten said.
what evidence is he talking about?
anyone?
on โ14-10-2014 01:34 PM
Malaysia Airlines said MH17โs route had been declared safe by the UNโs International Civil Aviation Organisation (ICAO) and was not subject to restrictions. The ICAO develops international aviation standards which can be used by various countries when they make their regulations.
Patrick Smith, airline pilot and author of the book Cockpit Confidential and the website askthepilot.com said itโs very common to fly over hostile areas.
It is fairly routine for civilian jetliners to overfly areas of conflict,โ Mr Smith said. โDozens of airline flights pass each day over Baghdad, for example. Many of them land there. Iโve personally piloted flights over eastern Ukraine, close to where the Malaysia Airlines (flight) met its fate on Friday.
The Malaysian Airlines flight was reportedly travelling at an altitude of about 33,000 feet - an altitude considered by those within the industry to be completely safe.
on โ14-10-2014 01:36 PM
maybe email him and ask.
on โ14-10-2014 01:38 PM
on โ14-10-2014 01:39 PM
@boris1gary wrote:maybe email him and ask.
thank you - i'll remember that