Victory Day 2015

Victory Day Parade in Red Square Moscow ti commemorate the 70th anniversary of the defeat of Nazism.

 

The Patriotic War claimed 27 million Russian lives and the outcome of World War II would have been vastly different had in not been for the effort of Russia.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcFMuLr7TRs

 

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Perhaps a bit of history and perspective are in order

 

agreed

 

 

The pact between Hitler and Stalin that paved the way for World War II was signed 75 years ago

 

With the stroke of a pen 75 years ago, two men changed the world and sealed the fate of millions.

 

Those two men were the foreign minister of Nazi Germany, Joachim von Ribbentrop, and his Soviet counterpart, Vyacheslav Molotov. On August 23, 1939, they signed a non-aggression pact, promising not to interfere in case the other went to war.

 

That public announcement was shocking enough: The two totalitarian states had been at loggerheads for years. But they also signed a second, secret agreement that carved up eastern Europe between them. Those world-changing deals are the subject of "Devils’ Alliance: Hitler’s Pact With Stalin, 1939-1941," a book by historian Roger Moorhouse that's due out this fall.

“In fact, the Nazi-Soviet Pact as the kick-off for World War II is probably the most surprising scenario that anyone could have imagined," Moorhouse says. "That’s how you have to view it from the perspective of August 1939. The world was absolutely dumbstruck by this deal.”

 

Those twin agreements did in fact set the stage for the start of World War II. Within days of signing the pacts, now confident that the Soviets would not oppose him, Hitler invaded Poland. Britain and France declared war on Germany, and the war was underway.

A couple of weeks later, the Soviet Union invaded Poland from the east to grab its share of the spoils. In 1940 it followed up by occupying Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and the Romanian province of Bessarabia. Britain and France protested, but with their forces already taking on Germany, they couldn't afford to fight Stalin as well.

 

A map showing eastern Europe was divided between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany by their secret pact in 1939.

 

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-08-21/pact-between-hitler-and-stalin-paved-way-world-war-ii-was-sign...

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Don't forget to include 1940-1945 those years were part of WW II too you know.

 

Cherry picking does not a full story make 🙂

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War is full of atrocities..................on ALL sides.

 

so why did stalin blame soviet atrocities

on the nazis?  in fact, putin is still in denial.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Pity that western leaders chose not to attend the celebrations in Moscow.

 

 

any idea why putin has brought back the

soviet style military parades to honor the 

ww2 dead?

 

many western leaders were there to pay

respects (laying wreaths).  they chose to stay

away from the military parade incl angela 

merkel, a uk representative and many others.

 

 

 

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Brought back??/

 

Julia google is your friend

 

Victory Day 2000

 

 

Victory day 1985

 

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I have yet to see the West say anything favourable about any Soviet leader.

 

you must be very young if you don't

recall what the west was saying about

gorbachev.

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Enlighten me 🙂

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The feeling was far from being mutual

 

"Mikhail Gorbachev has accused the US of dragging Russia into a new Cold War. The former Soviet president fears the chill in relations could eventually spur an armed conflict.

Plainly speaking, the US has already dragged us into a new Cold War, trying to openly implement its idea of triumphalism,” Gorbachev said in an interview with Interfax.

The former USSR leader, whose name is associated with the end of the Cold War between the Soviet Union and the United States, is worried about the possible consequences.

What’s next? Unfortunately, I cannot be sure that the Cold War will not bring about a ‘hot’ one. I’m afraid they might take the risk,” he said."

 

Gorbachev’s criticism of Washington comes as the West is pondering new sanctions against Russia, blaming it for the ongoing military conflict in eastern Ukraine, and alleging Moscow is sending troops to the restive areas. Russia has denied the allegations.

All we hear from the US and the EU now is sanctions against Russia,” Gorbachev said. “Are they completely out of their minds? The US has been totally ‘lost in the jungle’ and is dragging us there as well.”

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Brought back??/

 

 

yes.  soviet style celebrations were not

big in the 90s.   putin changed that.

 

why?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Julia do go back to post 25, you must have missed it

 

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