Violence against women OK.

[village_person]

Muslim leader Keysar Trad tells Andrew Bolt violence against women is 'last resort'

A controversial Muslim community leader has said violence towards women should be a "last resort".

President of the Australian Federation of Islamic Councils Keysar Trad appeared on Sky News last night when host Andrew Bolt brought up domestic violence.

The presenter quoted from the Koran, saying "It is permissible for him (husbands) to beat her (the wife) light with his hands".

"Violence is a last resort," Trad responded.

"Before you even consider using your hand before you consider any act of violence have you checked box number one, which is counselling. Have you checked box number two?

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http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/02/23/06/33/muslim-leader-keysar-trad-tells-andrew-bolt-violen...

Given the priapic identity of the alleged religion in question is it any wonder we see such views trotted out from time to time.

I'll bet we'll see an avalanche of criticism directed at Mr Trad after what he had to say. At the same time we'll see a flight of pigs soaring high.

Julia Gillard phone your office.

[davidc4430]

perhaps a better response might have been 'placing hands on a woman is only ok in self defence'

[mr.tip]

that's part of the teaching, same as a woman is only worth half of a man. no such thing as marital rape either............

funny how the normal crowd suddenly go silent on these type of subjects...............

would have thought they would have accused christians or jews. maybe blame trump or bush, anything to shift the topic...............

[johcaschro]

This should really not be so surprising a point of view for anyone who knows what Islam teaches.

Keysar Trad's statement is perfectly congruent with the islamic teachings contained in Sura 4 of the Koran.

What I find more distrubing is the degree of ignorance in non-Muslims about that teaching and about what it implies.

A "last resort", eh?

Words worth thinking about.

[davidc4430]

the good old bible has passages just as bad as the koran.

religeons are often based on some really atrocious beliefs

http://www.upworthy.com/quran-passages-or-bible-verses-people-react-negatively-and-then-learn-the-tr...

[bushies.girl]

Many non reigious people seem to think domestic violence is ok as well  

[lionrose.7]

If some one is going to be violent towards others religion or race does not matter.

Some people are just violent nasty AHs

[bushies.girl]

Totally agree

[springyzone]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

the good old bible has passages just as bad as the koran.

religeons are often based on some really atrocious beliefs

http://www.upworthy.com/quran-passages-or-bible-verses-people-react-negatively-and-then-learn-the-tr...

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Sure it does.

But that isn't the main concern here.

What we're looking at is what clerics are currently teaching to their flocks.

You're not likely to go into any Christian church where the pastor is going to say it is okay to beat your wife. In fact you are more likely to find that ministers will say old testament teachings were superceded by the new testament etc. In other words, some of the old rules will be judged as defunct. People will be told to disregard them.

The trouble with Islam is the teaching is current. It is the current state of play.

And what surprises me is that we don't get women's libbers making any comments.

In fact some of them turn around and just say oh well, that is their culture, got to respect it. That is not what they said in the 1960s or 1970s about our culture. They said our culture was wrong and needed to change.

How come none of them ever say anything in the muslim religion (such as stoning women etc) is wrong?

[mr.tip]

understandable how some can confuse the 2 books.

Jesus did threaten anyone who harmed a child, while the other guy married a 6 year old and then "hurt" her the rest of her sad, miserable life.

the followers of Jesus are supposed to follow his teachings, the followers of the other guy do as well - google child brides.

sad really that so many would rather see women and children destroyed in the most horrible ways than admit it's true and instead of defending this evil move instead to bring change and enlightenment.