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Australia PM rules out leniency for ex-jihadists

 

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has ruled out any leniency for returning jihadists following reports that three of its nationals suspected of fighting with Islamic State were in secret negotiations with Canberra to come home.

 

The Australian newspaper said the three had approached authorities via intermediaries or family members, but that the talks were stalled over what punishment they would face and fears of the risk they might pose if they were reissued passports and allowed to return.

 

The news has sparked a fierce debate in Australia about whether or not to allow those who have left the country to fight with ISIS or other groups to return. The public and the government appear to be in lockstep in their opposition to the idea.

 

A lawyer representing one of the three Australian men told Fairfax radio that his client, an Australian-born convert to Islam, was prepared to face the full force of the law and wanted to use his experience to discourage would-be jihadists from joining the terror group.

 

 Rob Stary said if he were capable of rehabilitation, "then we should utilise him, we should at least engage in the discussion, but the shutters have been put up by the (Australian Federal Police)".

 

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Oh he wants to use his experience to counsel would-be-jihadists against joining ISIL, does he?

 

How do we know he's not a Trojan Horse and instead is instructed to recruit fresh meat?

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Do we really have a choice about allowing them back?

Won't they be deported?

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i think we do have a choice.

 

other countries are considering it

 

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/norway-make-citizens-fighting-isis-stateless-1462776

 

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@*julia*2010 wrote:

so what do you think these young people

thought they were going to be doing over there?

 

 

 

 


Whatever it is that the recruiters tell them; something along the lines that they are going there to fight to establish Islamic State free of the corrupt sheiks running such countries as Saudi Arabia or al-Assad. 

 

Just as army recruiters in any country talk about wonderful opportunities and adventures; they do not mention the madness of a war, the fact that you actually have to kill another human beings, or the likelihood of being injured, killed or suffer mental illness, and the army then turns their back on you.

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Voltaire: “Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities, Can Make You Commit Atrocities” .
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well, i don't believe for one second  that these

young people don't have access to the  videos

featuring other young australian jihadists 

directly threatening to behead our pm amongst

other threats directed at australia.  

 

those are the people they want to join.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

@*julia*2010 wrote:

so what do you think these young people

thought they were going to be doing over there?

 

 

 

 


Whatever it is that the recruiters tell them; something along the lines that they are going there to fight to establish Islamic State free of the corrupt sheiks running such countries as Saudi Arabia or al-Assad. 

 

Just as army recruiters in any country talk about wonderful opportunities and adventures; they do not mention the madness of a war, the fact that you actually have to kill another human beings, or the likelihood of being injured, killed or suffer mental illness, and the army then turns their back on you.


They dress it up as something honourable, straight out of the movies or video game.  Something like 24, Die Hard or Fast & Furious, aimed at young people who think they're bullet proof, looking for some meaning and a cause in life.

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No way. Do not let them back.

IMO if Mr Abbott does not let them back then he has an excellent shot at winning the next election because from what im reading the majority of Australians do not want them back.

 

Can they be stopped from coming back?

Well, Rebels Bikie boss Alex Vella cant come back here. His visa was cancelled under the “character provisions of the Migration Act”.

Granted though, even though hed lived here for 46years, he had never taken citizenship

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/breaking-news/foreign-criminals-kicked-out-of-aus/story-fni0xq...

 

"AUSTRALIA has cancelled the visas of 450 foreigners convicted of serious crimes in Australia since July 2014.

A FURTHER 100 people had their visa applications refused for failing the character test in migration laws, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton revealed on Thursday.

And 71 people have been deported following criminal convictions in Australia including nine pedophiles, six rapists and one murderer."

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@gleee58 wrote:

@***super_nova*** wrote:

@*julia*2010 wrote:

so what do you think these young people

thought they were going to be doing over there?

 

 

 

 


Whatever it is that the recruiters tell them; something along the lines that they are going there to fight to establish Islamic State free of the corrupt sheiks running such countries as Saudi Arabia or al-Assad. 

 

Just as army recruiters in any country talk about wonderful opportunities and adventures; they do not mention the madness of a war, the fact that you actually have to kill another human beings, or the likelihood of being injured, killed or suffer mental illness, and the army then turns their back on you.


They dress it up as something honourable, straight out of the movies or video game.  Something like 24, Die Hard or Fast & Furious, aimed at young people who think they're bullet proof, looking for some meaning and a cause in life.


and you know this as a fact how? what about the radicalisation we are told they are getting, what about the computer sites they inhabit day after day watching the vile actions of ISIS? what about that? or are they just stupid little boys who didn't know any better?

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It would be very silly to think that all these boys are totally innocent. Even if just ONE of them is an ISIS plant, who knows what damage  that ONE could do. I dread to think If they are all plants ???

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