Welfare Reform suggestions

Who should they target first? Or last?

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Alex, why are you attributing my stand against my having to fund the addiction of others on anger and hate?

 

I am neither angry or hateful.

 

If a person decides to choose the risk of being an addict, it is entirely their choice. What I object to is having to fund their addiction.

 

 

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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@poddster wrote:

Yes she was a victim. But then to go down the same road and victimize others?

 

Sorry, that does not wash

 

 


I don't see where this women has victimised others.

Good on her for being strong and not becoming bitter 

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You mean like sheep?

Like Pauline Hanson I believe that a polly should not be able to acces their pension untill at pension age.

That should save a few dollars.

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@alexander*beetle wrote:
How did she victimise others? So many twisted words to serve your own agendas.

You don't consider the people who fund her treatment as victims? What about the people around her? She should know how they feel (having been in that position herself)

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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Ok. So what do you propose she do? Lets say, for arguments sake, she has given up drinking. But her health is poor and psychologically she is stil struggling with the abuse she underwent as a child. She in unable to hold down a job due to her physical problems and her chronic depression.

Going by your comments, she doesn't deserve any monetary help because she didn't just get on with her life. In all honesty, what happens to her with no income, no benefits, no medical assistance? Do you see the actual real life outcome of your comments that you don't want your money paying for her? Do we just leave her to die because of the traumatic life she struggles to cope with?

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@poddster wrote:

@izabsmiling wrote:

show me and I will follow 


What ever happened to self preservation and leadership?

 

 


They're learned traits, not something everyone is born with.

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The most confusing aspect for me is that I can almost understand the lack of comprehension of other people's plights, but I simply don't understand the anger and hatred for anyone who doesn't meet the expected standards of others. Fortunately for me, I suppose I never will.

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Alex

 

This is something called division of the masses which most governments foster but was fine tuned to fever pitch by John Howard while in power to a point not seen since the early churches lost the power to controll education and knowledge.

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@poddster wrote:

Alex, why are you attributing my stand against my having to fund the addiction of others on anger and hate?

 

I am neither angry or hateful.

 

If a person decides to choose the risk of being an addict, it is entirely their choice. What I object to is having to fund their addiction.

 

 


I strongly suspect you don't contribute to anyones addiction.

You certainly don't fund them.

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By the way Alex, you have chosen one extreme end of the addiction spectrum for emotive purposes.

 

The other extreme is where an addict chooses to get on welfare so that they have some one to fund their habit, unfortunately that type is in the vast majority.

 

Do you think that there should be equality among addicts?

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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@poddster wrote:

Alex, why are you attributing my stand against my having to fund the addiction of others on anger and hate?

 

I am neither angry or hateful.

 

If a person decides to choose the risk of being an addict, it is entirely their choice. What I object to is having to fund their addiction.

 

 


It's not a choice and YOU are not funding anyone's addiction. 

 

Before you rant and rave about addiction and addicts you need to learn a little more about it/them. 

 

Your comments about addicts and addictions demonstrate quite clearly that you are uneducated about the subject. 

 

Addicts and addictions are not chewing up all the money in Australia. And even if they were, well,  there is less hope for addicts and the families torn apart by addictions now: 

 

The  Alcohol and Other Drugs Council of Australia that advised Australian governments on alcohol and drug policy for almost half a century shut its doors on Friday February 28, 2014. 

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/alcohol-and-other-drugs-council-of-australia-s...

 

Go throw a parade and cheer about it.  Send Fiona Nash a bunch of white feathers. 

 

 



“I’ve got my purse and my gift and my gloves and my selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitor and my monoamine oxidase inhibitor and I have my anti-anxiety disco biscuits and I am ready to go. I am really ready!” Sheila
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