on 25-02-2015 08:46 PM
I am amazed and disgusted that in all the indignation over what Gillian Triggs should or shouldn't have done or who said or didn't say what to her, not ONE SINGLE POLITICIAN except, finally, Malcolm Turnbull, has commented in any way on the contents of her report..
She found that over a 15-month period from January 2013 to March 2014, spanning both the Labor and Coalition governments there were 233 recorded assaults involving children and 33 incidents of reported sexual assault.
If these findings are true - and as far as I know nobody has so far disputed them - then what is going to be done about it? Who had the duty of care? who is going to be held responsible. What measures are going to be put in place to stop this abuse happening in future?
Both Gillian Triggs and George Brandis are astute and comparitively wealthy adults able to instruct top legal practitioners to protect their reputaions - but who is going to protect the safety of these children? How many more children have been abused since March 2014? Is a child perhaps being abused in a detention centre even while you are reading this post?
Surely to goodness after all that was learned from the Children In Care Royal Commission this report cannot simply be put in a "don't want to know" basket while both sides of Pariament try to gain political mileage out the motives of the Human Rghts Commissioner or the behaviour of the Attourney General.
At some point -though probably not in the lifetime of this government or even the one that follows it - there will inevitably be a Royal Commission into the treatment of children in detention centre. what do you imagine its findings are likely to be?
on 26-02-2015 02:01 PM
26-02-2015 02:04 PM - edited 26-02-2015 02:05 PM
That is pathetic.
You can't deny that having no one arrive and no one in detention solves the problem.
Please explain how it wouldn't be a solution ?
on 26-02-2015 02:47 PM
@gleee58 wrote:
@vicr3000 wrote:
Glee
You wants facts.
Here are the basic, absolutely raw facts.
"We wouldn't be in this mess if the Rudd (and Gillard) hadn't dismantled Howards system and allowed the flood
of Asylum Seekers to arrive.
No arrivals, no need for detention, no one in detention, no child abuse. Simple."
And I'll add, we wouldnt have had any drownings either, 1200 of them !
No, that is your opinion only and far removed from fact.
It's a valid opinion and a simple fact.
on 26-02-2015 02:48 PM
It is simple yes. Simple does not equate to fact.
on 26-02-2015 02:48 PM
So whats the answer then?
Anyone that arrives in Australia as a refugee, who has kids with them, should be just let into the community, given a house and welfare to live on?
or
Kids are removed from parents and placed in foster care. If the parents are found to be illegal, then the kids are given back to them and they are all kicked out of the country?
on 26-02-2015 02:51 PM
on 26-02-2015 02:53 PM
Definitely no house and definitely no welfare.
Adults stay in detention.
Foster care for kids is fine if they find someone willing.
"If the parents are found to be illegal, then the kids are given back to them and they are all kicked out of the country?"
YES, Definitely
And Sarah Hanson Young should be made to pay for it.
on 26-02-2015 02:58 PM
@vicr3000 wrote:glee
I can't believe you said that.
Please explain how if no one is in detention abuse can still occur in detention ??????
And how can it be removed from fact when if no boats come, their is no one new to detain.
I await your reply.
There were people in detention long before any boats arrived, and there will be people in detention long after any boats are stopped.
Why do you people fixate on boats?
on 26-02-2015 03:01 PM
on 26-02-2015 03:03 PM
Trickle? 50,000 a trickle?