on 25-02-2015 08:46 PM
I am amazed and disgusted that in all the indignation over what Gillian Triggs should or shouldn't have done or who said or didn't say what to her, not ONE SINGLE POLITICIAN except, finally, Malcolm Turnbull, has commented in any way on the contents of her report..
She found that over a 15-month period from January 2013 to March 2014, spanning both the Labor and Coalition governments there were 233 recorded assaults involving children and 33 incidents of reported sexual assault.
If these findings are true - and as far as I know nobody has so far disputed them - then what is going to be done about it? Who had the duty of care? who is going to be held responsible. What measures are going to be put in place to stop this abuse happening in future?
Both Gillian Triggs and George Brandis are astute and comparitively wealthy adults able to instruct top legal practitioners to protect their reputaions - but who is going to protect the safety of these children? How many more children have been abused since March 2014? Is a child perhaps being abused in a detention centre even while you are reading this post?
Surely to goodness after all that was learned from the Children In Care Royal Commission this report cannot simply be put in a "don't want to know" basket while both sides of Pariament try to gain political mileage out the motives of the Human Rghts Commissioner or the behaviour of the Attourney General.
At some point -though probably not in the lifetime of this government or even the one that follows it - there will inevitably be a Royal Commission into the treatment of children in detention centre. what do you imagine its findings are likely to be?
on 03-03-2015 12:09 AM
03-03-2015 12:36 AM - edited 03-03-2015 12:36 AM
Shamelessly copied from a post by myoclonjerk on another thread.
Thanks myoclonjerk
Between 2000 and 2007 (the period which includes the introduction of the “Pacific Solution" for asylum seekers travelling by boat under the Coalition government), the database documents 746 reported deaths of asylum seekers. Of those, 363 asylum seekers died at sea while on their way to Australia. As well, 350 were presumed dead (their status is missing at sea with status yunknown); 22 died in detention (the majority of those cases were suicide, but there were some deaths of natural causes); and 11 people were returned to Afghanistan and reportedly murdered for being “Australian spies"
Between 2008 and July 2013 (under Labor), 877 asylum seekers have reportedly died. Of those, 15 committed suicide or died of natural causes in detention centres.
So during this period of Labor Governement, approximately 862 individuals died trying to reach Australia's mainland to seek asylum.
During the 2000-2007 period of Coalition government, 363 died, with the status of additional 350 individuals unknown.
Sara Davis-Griffith University. Factcheck.
on 03-03-2015 12:37 AM
@vicr3000 wrote:
She should know the answers and they didn't hound her.
That part was all voluntary, not under pressure.
She is so partisan, has been since 2001 when she criticised the war and 2003 when she said Howard should be tried for war crimes !
ie She hates the LNP
What are you talking about?
Anyone who has seen her give evidence has to know she was hounded.
She has every right to take questions on notice.
At the recent hearing she answered every version of the same question over and over with consistency and evidence to back up her statements.
If you're going to accuse her of making a recommendation that Howard should be tried for war crimes back it up with some sort of proof.
on 03-03-2015 12:44 AM
on 03-03-2015 12:47 AM
IF she was hounded, well maybe she is coping exactly what Gov't minister and Others (non elected people)
cop from the likes of that useless SHY.
SHY has the audacity to hound others then complain when she perceives one of her own is hounded.
Hypocrisy !
on 03-03-2015 12:51 AM
Thank goodness Brandis was censured for lying about Gillian Triggs.
Of course Abbott defends him.
http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2015/03/02/brandis-condemned-triggs-saga/
on 03-03-2015 12:54 AM
Bully boys and misogynists. Back slappers.
on 03-03-2015 01:01 AM
@vicr3000 wrote:
IF she was hounded, well maybe she is coping exactly what Gov't minister and Others (non elected people)
cop from the likes of that useless SHY.
SHY has the audacity to hound others then complain when she perceives one of her own is hounded.
Hypocrisy !
That's just rubbish.
You clearly haven't watched the recording, which a blind person could see was hounding.
03-03-2015 01:01 AM - edited 03-03-2015 01:03 AM
Censured means nothing, they can't do nothing and Brandis will wear it as a badge of honour !
Sarah Two Dads should have been censured for some of her performances in the past,
but all she was made to do was apologise !
Glee
I have watched it, thanks.
That's not hounding, she should be able to take questioning like that, after all, everyone else does in those committees,
WHAT MAKES HER ANY DIFFERENT ?
on 03-03-2015 01:04 AM
@vicr3000 wrote:
Censured means nothing, they can't do nothing and Brandis will wear it as a badge of honour !
Sarah Two Dads should have been censured for some of her performances in the past,
but all she was made to do was apologise !
Glee
I have watched it, thanks.
That's not hounding, she should be able to take questioning like that, after all, everyone else does in those committees,
WHAT MAKES HER ANY DIFFERENT ?
Proof or it didn't happen.