What About The Children?

I am amazed and disgusted that in all the indignation over what Gillian Triggs should or shouldn't have done or who said or didn't say what to her, not ONE SINGLE POLITICIAN  except, finally, Malcolm Turnbull, has commented in any way on the contents of her report..

 

She found that  over a 15-month period from January 2013 to March 2014, spanning both the Labor and Coalition governments  there were 233 recorded assaults involving children and 33 incidents of reported sexual assault. 

 

If these findings are true - and as far as I know nobody has so far disputed them -   then what is going to be done about it? Who had the duty of care? who is going to be held responsible. What measures are going to be put in place to stop this abuse happening in future?

 

Both Gillian Triggs and George Brandis are astute and comparitively wealthy adults able to instruct top  legal practitioners to protect their reputaions - but who is going to protect the safety of these children? How many more children have been abused since March 2014? Is a child perhaps being abused in a detention centre  even while you are reading this post? 

 

Surely to goodness after all that was learned from the Children In Care Royal Commission this report cannot simply be put in a "don't want to know" basket while both sides of Pariament try to gain political mileage out the motives of the Human Rghts Commissioner or the behaviour of the Attourney General.

 

At some point -though probably not in the lifetime of this government  or even  the one that follows it - there will inevitably be a Royal Commission into the treatment of children in detention centre. what do you imagine its findings are likely to be?

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@vicr3000 wrote:
If trigg had been doing her job she would have done more investigations when their were more children in detention.

She didnt do her job when more children were being abused.


Let me know when you have finished reading this

 

http://junkee.com/junk-explained-why-wont-the-government-stop-yelling-at-human-rights-commission-pre...

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@vicr3000 wrote:
Podd

Labor covering up what happened on their watch

Which is why shorten is keeping quiet, he doesnt want the truth to come out.


So why isn't Abbott happy that the truth has come out. the report coverd january 2013 6 months before the election to March 1914 6 months after the election. Abbott  had the report in November. Whydidn't he say something then? Why  hasn't he said steps are being taken t address the situation?  - why hasn't he called for a royal commission.

I'm sure the abuse goes back well before 2013 and I'm sure Labor has more blood on its hands than the LNP does. But the LNP is the current government.  They were the ones handed the report and they are the ones who have the power to do something about Yet NOT ONE POLITICIAN (other than Turnbull) has expressed any concern over it.

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am3, glee, enlighten me. Who were the abusers? How were they abused?

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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@vicr3000 wrote:
If trigg had been doing her job she would have done more investigations when their were more children in detention.

She didnt do her job when more children were being abused.


https://www.humanrights.gov.au/our-work/asylum-seekers-and-refugees/publications/asylum-seekers-refu...

 

They did the snap shot report in 2013 when the previous govt was in office.

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@vicr3000 wrote:
Glee

Yes, i understand the timing.

Hide what happened under Rudd, Gillard by highlighting only what happened under abbott..

Hiding??

 

The report is eaqually scathing of BOTH governments.

 

But the Liberals and their supporters seem to be completely blinkered on that small fact.

 

If only the same amount of passion and outrage directed at Triggs could actually be directed to the issue she highlighted, then perhaps some wonderful solutions could come out of this tragedy.

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Does anyone care to enlightem ne as to how these kids were abosed and by whom/

 

Does anyone even know the details of any abuse?

I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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At the risk of being shot down in flames..........

 

Can anyone answer podds question.....

 

Who abused the children ?

 

and for my own question - what makes this any more reprehensible than the children outside of detention centres being abused on a daily basis ?

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If trigg had been doing her job she would have done more investigations when their were more children in detention.

 

In  my OP  I suggested that at some time in the future there will inevitably be a royal commission - no doubt that will look  further back and in more detail than the Triggs report did.

 

But you are stiill missing the point. My OP was not about how many children were abused or whose fault it was. It was about the fact that a report has jbeen released saying many children have been abused and nobody seems to want to acknowledge it or do anything about it.

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@vicr3000 wrote:
If trigg had been doing her job she would have done more investigations when their were more children in detention.

She didnt do her job when more children were being abused.


OMG...But she did!! 

 

The HRC prepared a snapshot report in early 2013 to see what the main focus of future investigation should be in regards to asylum seekers.

 

The result of this investigation led to a more fuly developed investigation which culminated in THIS report.

 

It should also be pointed out that this report was meant to be a 10 year comparison report to the one commissioned in 2004.

 

And whilst she has been at the helm of the HRC, she has instigated numerous reports which were delivered to the Labor Governments. I didn't see them crying foul because they faced some flack. The most daming of the reposrts was about the inhumane treatment of asylum seekers on Christmas Island. And guess what?? Gillard was PM at the time. Her govt took it on the chin and developed strategies as per the recommendations the HRC set up for them.

 

Why are the Liberals taking this so peronally? Why so defensive? Whsy not review the reposrt and its recommendations constructively and actually DO something for these poor little mites.

 

Sheesh - talk about a bunch of  cry babies!!

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@vicr3000 wrote:
If trigg had been doing her job she would have done more investigations when their were more children in detention.

She didnt do her job when more children were being abused.


A synopsis of said report by the asylum seeker resource centre. It's rather scathing of the previous government. Any suggestion that Professor Triggs is acting out of political bias is biased opinion.

 

http://www.asrc.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Australian-Human-Rights-Commission-2013-snap-shot-...

 

Australian Human Rights Commission – Asylum seekers, refugees and human rights (snapshot report 2013)

 

Australia maintains one of the most restrictive immigration detention systems in the world – Australian Human Rights Commission The Australian Human Rights Commission undertook a report that considered immigration detention law, policy and practice, bridging visas, the enhanced screening process, third country processing and proposed Government reforms.

 

This report was released on the 22 October 2013.

 

SYNOPSIS OF REPORT

 

The report displays multiple concerns regarding Australia’s treatment of asylum seekers and refugees both within Australia and abroad. Underlying most of the criticisms and concerns, is a worry that Australia is not upholding its international obligations towards asylum seekers or refugees. Primarily, the nature and procedures of mandatory detention is of most worry to the Commission. The prolonged nature and inadequate conditions continue to result in high risks of mental harm and social exclusion. In addition, the Commission expresses concern at the third country processing regimes. Specifically the Commission has particular reservations about the Minister’s discretion in sending asylum seekers to countries where they might face the risk of refoulement.

 

DOMESTIC

 

Mandatory immigration detention Australia is a signatory to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR).

 

Australia has a binding obligation under article 9(1) of the ICCPR to not subject anyone to arbitrary detention. The Commission notes that Australia has repeatedly found to have breached this article by the United Nations Human Rights Committee. Australia has engaged in the arbitrary detention of asylum seekers, though lawful under domestic law, has been held to be unjust or disproportionate under Australia’s international obligations.

 

There is no time limit for those in detention. Asylum seekers that are placed in detention are not detained based on individual assessments, but because of their mode of arrival. This leads to prolonged and indefinite detention. The Commission reiterates its concerns about the conditions of detention and the cost. In 2011-12, immigration detention cost the Australian taxpayers $1.235 billion.1

 

The Commission recommends in its report that asylum seekers be detained only if it is shown to be necessary in individual cases. This is especially required because it has been questioned whether mandatory detention effectively deters people from seeking asylum.

 

1 www.anao.gov.au/Publications/Audit-Reports/2012-2013/Individual-Management-ServicesProvided-to-Peopl...

 

Children in detention

 

As of 5 September, there were 1,428 children in closed immigration detention.

 

The average age of these children was 10 years old.2 The Convention of the Rights of the Child (CRC) requires that children only be detained as a matter of last resort and for the shortest appropriate period of time. The mandatory detention of children is fundamentally inconsistent with Australia’s obligations under the CRC because it is used as a first, not a last resort.

 

Children detained for long periods of time are at high risk of serious mental harm, which may amount to cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment in breach of the CRC. The Commission also expressed concern about unaccompanied children in detention. The Minister’s role as guardian of these children creates a conflict of interest. A more suitable process would have an independent guardian appointed for all unaccompanied minors in detention to ensure that their rights are protected. This recommendation was taken up in 2012 by the Parliamentary Joint Select Committee on Australia’s Immigration Detention Network.3

 

Refugees with adverse security assessments

 

The Commission raised concerns again about the 52 refugees being deined a protection visa as a result of adverse security assessments from ASIO. A number of those refugees have been detained for over four years.

 

In 2012, ASIO accepted advice from an independent reviewer of security assessments that two cases be overturned, 10 maintained. No information has been provided for any of these cases. The Commission reiterated its strong support for an independent review of adverse security assessments and greater transparency.

 

Mental health impacts of detention

 

Between 1 July 2010 and 20 June 2013, there were 12 deaths in immigration detention. Coroners have found that six of those deaths were suicides. Rates of self-harm and detrimental impacts of mental health remain high.

 

The UN Human Rights Committee has found Australia in breach of the right not to be subject to cruel, inhumane or degrading treatment or punishment, and the right of people to be detained to be treated with dignity, by continuing to detain people in the knowledge that it was contributing to mental illness.

 

Alternatives to detention

 

The Commission welcomes the increased use of community arrangements. The practical benefits of this are clear. Community arrangements create fewer risks to the health, safety and wellbeing of asylum seekers and refuges which lead to lower rates of self-harm and fewer claims for welfare. In addition, it allows a smoother transition to living in the Australian community once protection visas are granted.

 

Bridging visas without the right to work

 

The Commission notes that under article 6 of the International Covenant on Economic, Social and Cultural Rights (ICESCR), Australia has an obligation to ensure that there is a minimum right of access to employment, especially for disadvantaged and marginalised individuals and groups.

 

As at 2 September 2013, there were 21,000 asylum seekers living in the community of bridging visas without any work rights. The Commission also raised concern that the level of financial assistance to those without work rights was inadequate and created vulnerability if asylum seekers were on that level of benefits for a long period of time. The UNHCR has also expressed concern about this.

 

Enhanced screening process

 

The Commission expressed concern that the enhanced screening process might not conform with sufficient safeguards to protect people from being at risk of refoulement.

 

Non-refoulement requires Australia to provide asylum seekers with effective access to fair and efficient asylum procedures. The Commission is concerned that the process does not constitute a fair asylum procedure and risks excluding those with legitimate needs for protection.

 

The Commission had specific concerns:

 People subjected to the enhanced screening process are not informed of their right to seek asylum.

 Screening interviews may be brief and not sufficiently detailed or probing to ensure that all relevant protection claims are raised.

 The process may in fact be used not for screening but for substantive assessment of protection claims without the normal safeguards.  Persons subject to the screening process are not informed of their right to seek legal advice and are only provided with reasonable facilities to contact a legal advisor if they make a specific request.

 

The Commission was also concerned that those ‘screened out’ are not given a written statement of the reasons for the decision and do not have any recourse to an independent review of the decision.

 

UNHCR labelled this process as unfair and unreliable.

 

THIRD COUNTRY PROCESSING

 

The Commission is concerned that third country processing puts asylum seekers at risk of refoulement. The Commission is concerned that the Minister’s discretion in matters of sending asylum seekers to a third country does not adequately address the possibility that asylum seekers may face refoulement. Nor does it provide adequate safeguards and leaves the Minister with the power to decide whether or not to expose an asylum seeker to that risk or not.

 

The same issue of arbitrary detention and the conditions of detention apply equally, if not more so to detention on Manus Island and Nauru. In addition, the Commission reiterated its view that hot, remote locations are not appropriate places to send asylum seeker children, or other vulnerable groups.International Health and Medical Services recommended that children younger than 5 and pregnant women should not take anti-malaria medicine and should therefore not travel to Manus Island, which has endemic rates of malaria.

 

PROPOSED POLICY CHANGES

 

TPVs The Commission opposes the reintroduction of TPVs because

 

1. Granting of protection on a temporary basis results in uncertainty, and has a detrimental impact upon a holder’s mental health. It also affects their capacity to participate in social, employment and educational opportunities offered in Australia.

 

2. Absence of family reunion combined with a ban on leaving Australia means holders face prolonged and indefinite periods of separation from their family.

 

3. Limiting TPVs to those who arrived by boat, Australia may be discriminating against this group contrary to the ICCPR and the Refugee Convention.

 

Reform of the refugee status determination process

 

The UNHCR identified several procedural safeguards for a fair and efficient refugee status determination procedure. The Commission opposes any proposal to remove an independent merits review process from refugee status determination in Australia.

 

The Commission expressly notes that there has been significant criticism of the UK’s fast track system which the Government has an interest in. Determining straight forward cases has proven to be difficult with the fast track process; groups who are not supposed to be placed in the fast track system like children have been, timeframes have not been complied with and there has been continued prolonged detention of asylum seekers.

 

The Commission also expressed concern that withdrawing legal assistance IAAAS may increase the chance of refoulement.

 

This summary has been compiled by the Asylum Seeker Resource Centre (ASRC).

 

For more information please contact educate@asrc.org.au For the full report please visit the Australian Human Rights Commission’s webpage.

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