What About The Children?

[the_great_she_elephant]

I am amazed and disgusted that in all the indignation over what Gillian Triggs should or shouldn't have done or who said or didn't say what to her, not ONE SINGLE POLITICIAN  except, finally, Malcolm Turnbull, has commented in any way on the contents of her report..

She found that  over a 15-month period from January 2013 to March 2014, spanning both the Labor and Coalition governments  there were 233 recorded assaults involving children and 33 incidents of reported sexual assault. 

If these findings are true - and as far as I know nobody has so far disputed them -   then what is going to be done about it? Who had the duty of care? who is going to be held responsible. What measures are going to be put in place to stop this abuse happening in future?

Both Gillian Triggs and George Brandis are astute and comparitively wealthy adults able to instruct top  legal practitioners to protect their reputaions - but who is going to protect the safety of these children? How many more children have been abused since March 2014? Is a child perhaps being abused in a detention centre  even while you are reading this post? 

Surely to goodness after all that was learned from the Children In Care Royal Commission this report cannot simply be put in a "don't want to know" basket while both sides of Pariament try to gain political mileage out the motives of the Human Rghts Commissioner or the behaviour of the Attourney General.

At some point -though probably not in the lifetime of this government  or even  the one that follows it - there will inevitably be a Royal Commission into the treatment of children in detention centre. what do you imagine its findings are likely to be?

[cherry*135]

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@vicr3000 wrote:
If trigg had been doing her job she would have done more investigations when their were more children in detention.

She didnt do her job when more children were being abused.

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What qualifications do you have to make that statement?

Royal Commisioner?

[vicr3000]

GSE

You ask some good questions.

[cherry*135]

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@poddster wrote:

am3, glee, enlighten me. Who were the abusers? How were they abused?

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No point asking that if you haven't read the HRC report.

[gleee58]

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@vicr3000 wrote:

What was Trigg doing for the 6 years before the Snap shot ?

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She hasn't been in the job 6 years.

How can you argue so viciously against a woman when you don't even know the most basic information about her job and qualifications?

[i-need-a-martini]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@vicr3000 wrote:

What was Trigg doing for the 6 years before the Snap shot ?

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She only became president of the Human Rights Commission in 2012.

I know it's difficult, but can't you please try to lift your head abve the mire of party politics for a moment.

A report has been tabled saying that  children have been abused in government run institutions and neither the government nor the opposition seem  to beinterested in discussing it or doing anything about it.

How is this case so different from children being abused in State and church run home?. When details about that became known , did both sides of government go into melt down arguing over whose watch it hapened on and who should have investigated what, how or when? 

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I would also add to she-els comment that a RC into Institutional Abuse was welcomed by both parties.

But apparently we can't have an RC into this because Abbott thinks he has been targeted...go figure!

[cherry*135]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

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@vicr3000 wrote:
If trigg had been doing her job she would have done more investigations when their were more children in detention.

She didnt do her job when more children were being abused.

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OMG...But she did!! 

The HRC prepared a snapshot report in early 2013 to see what the main focus of future investigation should be in regards to asylum seekers.

The result of this investigation led to a more fuly developed investigation which culminated in THIS report.

It should also be pointed out that this report was meant to be a 10 year comparison report to the one commissioned in 2004.

And whilst she has been at the helm of the HRC, she has instigated numerous reports which were delivered to the Labor Governments. I didn't see them crying foul because they faced some flack. The most daming of the reposrts was about the inhumane treatment of asylum seekers on Christmas Island. And guess what?? Gillard was PM at the time. Her govt took it on the chin and developed strategies as per the recommendations the HRC set up for them.

Why are the Liberals taking this so peronally? Why so defensive? Whsy not review the reposrt and its recommendations constructively and actually DO something for these poor little mites.

Sheesh - talk about a bunch of  cry babies!!

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Funny you should write that, I was thinking exactly the same thing.

[poddster]

Once again I ask, what are the details of the abuse and who were the children abused by.

Just the facts and no some airy fairy convoluted jargon in political doubletalk or psychological hooha

Just the bruises and the people who caused then will do

[cherry*135]

Read the report - links have been posted.. not up to us to make yourself informed.

[gleee58]

Martini,

I have posted the link to the Senate hearing yesterday, numerous times on this forum since yesterday.  All the answers to these accusations are there, in clear english. The reasons for the timing and the processs they go through in planning for the review and why the officer, Mr Dicks (I think) advised that an enquiry would be more suitable for the 10 year review.

It also clearly shows off who knows respect and who doesn't.

[vicr3000]

Trigg should do what the Governor General did, offer to resign.

She is now a distraction to the HR cause.

 And all these children and abuse issues wouldn't have occurred if the boats had been stopped earlier,

instead of letting them come by the thousands.