What About The Children?

[the_great_she_elephant]

I am amazed and disgusted that in all the indignation over what Gillian Triggs should or shouldn't have done or who said or didn't say what to her, not ONE SINGLE POLITICIAN  except, finally, Malcolm Turnbull, has commented in any way on the contents of her report..

She found that  over a 15-month period from January 2013 to March 2014, spanning both the Labor and Coalition governments  there were 233 recorded assaults involving children and 33 incidents of reported sexual assault. 

If these findings are true - and as far as I know nobody has so far disputed them -   then what is going to be done about it? Who had the duty of care? who is going to be held responsible. What measures are going to be put in place to stop this abuse happening in future?

Both Gillian Triggs and George Brandis are astute and comparitively wealthy adults able to instruct top  legal practitioners to protect their reputaions - but who is going to protect the safety of these children? How many more children have been abused since March 2014? Is a child perhaps being abused in a detention centre  even while you are reading this post? 

Surely to goodness after all that was learned from the Children In Care Royal Commission this report cannot simply be put in a "don't want to know" basket while both sides of Pariament try to gain political mileage out the motives of the Human Rghts Commissioner or the behaviour of the Attourney General.

At some point -though probably not in the lifetime of this government  or even  the one that follows it - there will inevitably be a Royal Commission into the treatment of children in detention centre. what do you imagine its findings are likely to be?

[i-need-a-martini]

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@vicr3000 wrote:

I need.

I thought Abbott was releasing them ?
Hence the numbers decreased, although the time spent in was slightly longer ?

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Only children under the age of 10 who arrived before early 2013. 

The rest have been left to rot in their hell.

[vicr3000]

Thanks


re hell, the photos in the reports of the Portacabins don't look too bad.

Workers here live in them.

[i-need-a-martini]

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@vicr3000 wrote:

Thanks


re hell, the photos in the reports of the Portacabins don't look too bad.

Workers here live in them.

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Workers can leave.

[cherry*135]

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@vicr3000 wrote:

Thanks


re hell, the photos in the reports of the Portacabins don't look too bad.

Workers here live in them.

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Everday of their life, no freedom to walk out and go where ever they want when they aren't working?

[poddster]

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@am*3 wrote:

Triggs isn't going anywhere, nor should she, no matter who many times you post she should resign etc.

That overblown attack on her from Abbott is going to do him more harm than her.

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Are you considering resigning as commissioner of spelling corrections am3 ?

[jean2579]

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@poddster wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

Triggs isn't going anywhere, nor should she, no matter who many times you post she should resign etc.

That overblown attack on her from Abbott is going to do him more harm than her.

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Are you considering resigning as commissioner of spelling corrections am3 ?

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Poddster, maybe am3 has been offered another position of similar rank to resign.

[cherry*135]

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@poddster wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

Triggs isn't going anywhere, nor should she, no matter who many times you post she should resign etc.

That overblown attack on her from Abbott is going to do him more harm than her.

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Are you considering resigning as commissioner of spelling corrections am3 ?

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That is a typo!

Is vic a  Royal Commissioner and the Inquiry has already been held and he has made his rulings?

[rabbitearbandicoot]

I haven't read the report and I must confess I don't know much about who's to blame etc. I did watch Q&A the other night - and as far as I can see,  the questions put about the numbers of children etc etc, were answered quite well in that Mr Hockey tried to explain the process by which the numbers of children in detention had been reduced by 85%? (I think).

I can understand the catch 22 situation that the Govt (any govt) would be in.

1. If they keep the children in with their parents - they (Govt) are blamed for keeping children in detention.

2. If they release the children to 'foster' homes, while further investigations are carried out as to the parents identities / genuiness of claims etc -  they (Govt) would be accused of seperating children from their parents.

** So, it looks like they can't win whichever way.

From what I heard on Q&A the remaining adults are STILL under investigation and most of them refuse to supply information about their identities.

Questions:

are there children in detention unaccompanied by  parents? ie children that were sent over by their parents.

does the report claim that the children who were abused were abused by guards or by inmates?

[gleee58]

While Professor Triggs was giving evidence in answer to Senator Wongs questions and in the process of talking up Senator Brandis and the speech he gave in December in which he praised her and the office, the juvenile old man senator macdonald, said that "the speech would have been prepared for him" she said "it was not" then macdonal said "that's a comic relief".

How disrespectful can a chair person get?

This was 10 minutes into a timed 15 minute segment with Sen wong asking the questions.  The Q and As were clear, considered and concise.

[j*oono]

Such a shame that Gillian Triggs has been turned into a political football.