on 11-03-2014 10:44 PM
I was just watching Hannah Gadsbys (brilliant!) show on the ABC on Australian Art and they brought up some interesting ideas about indigenous culture. It was particularly interesting given the debate on Q&A last night about Bolts "white aborigines" tirade.
So how many generations can pass before you shed your culture?
I am a first generation Italian and my kids are second generation. But we all call ourselves Italian if asked what culture we are. I imagine my grand and great grand kids will also refer to their Italian culture. Not sure beyond that.
My husband embraces his dads Canadian culture and his mothers Englishness. Yet his mothers ancestors came out from England in the early 1900s. Can he still really claim that his culture is English?
How would you relate your culture if asked what your background is?
on 12-03-2014 01:28 PM
@izabsmiling wrote:
@am*3 wrote:
What are YOU.?why don't you tell me about myself and save me the time and the headache of trying to point out that you are incorrect
Is that the thread title?...or is it denigrate this thread with other issues?
theres the rest of am* comment you forgot, changes things a bit yes?
on 12-03-2014 01:29 PM
on 12-03-2014 01:32 PM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:I was just watching Hannah Gadsbys (brilliant!) show on the ABC on Australian Art and they brought up some interesting ideas about indigenous culture. It was particularly interesting given the debate on Q&A last night about Bolts "white aborigines" tirade.
So how many generations can pass before you shed your culture?
I am a first generation Italian and my kids are second generation. But we all call ourselves Italian if asked what culture we are. I imagine my grand and great grand kids will also refer to their Italian culture. Not sure beyond that.
My husband embraces his dads Canadian culture and his mothers Englishness. Yet his mothers ancestors came out from England in the early 1900s. Can he still really claim that his culture is English?
How would you relate your culture if asked what your background is?
Interesting issues raised (as far as i am concerned in any case) in this OP Martini and I would like to be able to expand more on many of them .
I will leave it for the time being.
12-03-2014 01:43 PM - edited 12-03-2014 01:45 PM
Yes, selective quoting is the norm for some.
Barbed comments, laughing emoticon - passive aggressive?
on 12-03-2014 01:45 PM
there is nothing more selective than what is and has been happening here...even after my polite request
on 12-03-2014 01:47 PM
@march470 wrote:
@freakiness wrote:
@i-need-a-martini wrote:I was just watching Hannah Gadsbys
looks like a guy to me sure isnt a wonam even though it says it is... more guy than gal that one
the debate on Q&A last night about Bolts "white aborigines" tirade.
he is allowed an opinion just like the lefties are but in the case of the left they dont think anyone else is allowed an opinion and bolt is correct most of these loud mouth people claiming they are aboriginals are whiter then i am and they seem to forget that they have white parents and when do you stop being aboriginal as these people think even 100 generations down the track that they have the right to bleed the system
If it was a fair comment he would not have been found guilty.
He published lies based on generalised misinformation.
And no, Hannah was just a farm girl who grew up to become a comedian. Good on her. What about that causes your contempt for her?
on 12-03-2014 01:48 PM
I am an Australian.I value and respect all of what being an Australian means.
12-03-2014 01:51 PM - edited 12-03-2014 01:54 PM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:I was just watching Hannah Gadsbys (brilliant!) show on the ABC on Australian Art and they brought up some interesting ideas about indigenous culture. It was particularly interesting given the debate on Q&A last night about Bolts "white aborigines" tirade.
So how many generations can pass before you shed your culture?
I am a first generation Italian and my kids are second generation. But we all call ourselves Italian if asked what culture we are. I imagine my grand and great grand kids will also refer to their Italian culture. Not sure beyond that.
My husband embraces his dads Canadian culture and his mothers Englishness. Yet his mothers ancestors came out from England in the early 1900s. Can he still really claim that his culture is English?
How would you relate your culture if asked what your background is?
When my ancestors came from France, in the first year in NZ, they sent one of their daughters back to live in France. She was about 10-11 yo and accompanied by a female adult. (they also sent a stuffed fur seal and Maori cloak with her )So that branch of the family still had a relative living in France. When we had a family reunion a few years ago, descendants living in France of that girl came to the reunion. That side of our famly history is well documented. The Maori cloak was returned to NZ at the reunion and given to a museum.
on 12-03-2014 01:59 PM
it was bolts intent that had him in hot water, he set out to vilify . he could have said what he said without the malice and deranged spite and not have been convicted. it was the fact he presented his 'material ' in such a derogatory manner that cooked the gooses goose..
on 12-03-2014 02:03 PM
@lakeland27 wrote:it was bolts intent that had him in hot water, he set out to vilify . he could have said what he said without the malice and deranged spite and not have been convicted. it was the fact he presented his 'material ' in such a derogatory manner that cooked the gooses goose..
True.