What does the Judge feel?

[lloydslights]

When an individual is on bail for a crime, and recommits to a greater degree (deadly coward punch), how does the former judge come to grips with his adjudication? 

[ufo_investigations]

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@just_me_karen wrote:
So you'd lock up the wife and the druggie for life?

There is already mandatory sentencing for some crimes, perhaps there's a law school dropout somewhere here who might know.

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If they break the law then so be it. People will soon learn not to break it.

[***super_nova***]

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@ufo_investigations wrote:

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@just_me_karen wrote:
So you'd lock up the wife and the druggie for life?

There is already mandatory sentencing for some crimes, perhaps there's a law school dropout somewhere here who might know.

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If they break the law then so be it. People will soon learn not to break it.

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That is the problem; people do not learn.  USA has one of the highest per capita murder rates and yet many states have death penalty.  Their drug offences carry in many states very harsh penalties yet they are losing their 'war on drugs'.

[bluecat*dancing]

I don't believe that incarceration will deter thugs but it will take them off the streets for a while. The whole mentality of these thugs needs to change and that will not happen overnight if at all.

Does anyone know if an advertising campaign is planned or is already happening?

[polocross58]

Currently, it costs insupportable and ridiculous amount of money (taxpayers' money) to construct a kilometre of highway

When was hard-labour phased out and why, we wonder

There are thousands of criminals sitting around in prisons.  A wasted resource.  Put them to use and let them genuinely repay in a small way their debt to society by putting them on chain-gangs and making them earn their keep.  Would save us a packet and why not ?   Instead, they're loafing around inside, watching the porn provided them

[***super_nova***]

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@polocross58 wrote:

Currently, it costs insupportable and ridiculous amount of money (taxpayers' money) to construct a kilometre of highway

When was hard-labour phased out and why, we wonder

There are thousands of criminals sitting around in prisons.  A wasted resource.  Put them to use and let them genuinely repay in a small way their debt to society by putting them on chain-gangs and making them earn their keep.  Would save us a packet and why not ?   Instead, they're loafing around inside, watching the porn provided them

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The tiny little problem would be that roads or railways are not constructed by 'gangs' any more but heavy machinery.  Not to mention the logistics of transporting them and making sure none of the prisoners escape or use the tools they are working with to attack the guards.    And of-course, every job done by a criminal is a job that unemployed person could do.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@polocross58 wrote:

Currently, it costs insupportable and ridiculous amount of money (taxpayers' money) to construct a kilometre of highway

When was hard-labour phased out and why, we wonder

There are thousands of criminals sitting around in prisons.  A wasted resource.  Put them to use and let them genuinely repay in a small way their debt to society by putting them on chain-gangs and making them earn their keep.  Would save us a packet and why not ?   Instead, they're loafing around inside, watching the porn provided them

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we can't even contain asylum seekers in detention centres, what hope have we got of supervising convicted criminals let out of confinement to work on the roads?

Considerations would be, their transport to the road works, security and supervision whilst in transit and at location.

I summize that the cost and risk of the above outweighs any savings in actual labor.

Additioinally, so many other real and imagined obstacles such as injury to the prisoner (we do owe them a duty of care), determining who is "fit to work", arbitrary boards determining working conditions, (is there a union that oversees prisoners? and the repercussions if they were to escape, especially if they caused harm to a member of the general public.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@polocross58 wrote:

Currently, it costs insupportable and ridiculous amount of money (taxpayers' money) to construct a kilometre of highway

When was hard-labour phased out and why, we wonder

There are thousands of criminals sitting around in prisons.  A wasted resource.  Put them to use and let them genuinely repay in a small way their debt to society by putting them on chain-gangs and making them earn their keep.  Would save us a packet and why not ?   Instead, they're loafing around inside, watching the porn provided them

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The tiny little problem would be that roads or railways are not constructed by 'gangs' any more but heavy machinery.  Not to mention the logistics of transporting them and making sure none of the prisoners escape or use the tools they are working with to attack the guards.    And of-course, every job done by a criminal is a job that unemployed person could do.

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this too