What does the word CRISIS mean to you?

[donnashuggy]

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[donnashuggy]

I think the policies are pretty clear

LNP - take from the poor and give to the rich

Labor - take from the rich and give to the poor

[the_hawk*]

I think the policies are pretty clear

LNP - take from the poor and give to the rich

Labor - take from the rich and give to the poor

the problem is they have taken so much already there is nothing left to take, thats why people have stopped spending and interest rates have fallen.

[*crikey*mate*]

I think the policies are pretty clear

LNP - take from the poor and give to the rich

Labor - take from the rich and give to the poor

I really don't follow politics per se - but it comes across as a bit different to that to me..

LNP - follow a system of meritocracy where effort and success are encouraged.

Labor - seems to me they operate a kind of quasi communist system, in that they want everyone to be economical equals regardless of the effort one puts in or the success one achieves.

[*crikey*mate*]

Think of it like a professional athlete - every now and then, you do get one who along with natural talent works pretty hard to achieve an olympic medal for example.

Then, just so that nobody is left out, they even hand out medals to people who didn't even enter the race...

It sort of takes the incentive away from giving things your best effort, eh?

[donnashuggy]

LNP - follow a system of meritocracy where effort and success are encouraged.

Do you mean an effort to take from the poor and give to the rich? Without Labor and good unions the minimum wage would be more like the USA.

[freakiness]

Well my question is what would the opposition do differently? I think they would have probably made similar decisions anyway. They seem to have no clear policy on the matter and the scary thing is that both parties really haven't got many policies that distinguish them from one another.

From what I've seen the policies could not be further apart at the moment. Labor have some policies while the LNP policy is all about undoing everything Labor have introduced.

Labor introduce Gonski reforms - LNP state they will undo any changes

Labor introduce NDIS - LNP not committed yet

Labor NBN - LNP destroy the NBN

[freakiness]

Freakie

The USA still had a AAA rating as recently as February dispute having a huge debt to China

They have the triple AAA rating?

The one from all 3 ratings agencies?

Last I heard they did not.

[the_hawk*]

Crikey I think you are looking at it wrongly, labor is not communism, it was always socially responsible for the week and those that couldn't look after them selves through a welfare system.

But still supported capitalism, in recent years they seem to have lost some or most of its social conscience and only seem interested in playing the big hero on the world stage while ignoring its own poor.

Hmm sounds a little like the US   

[lakeland27]

Sounds like you've given up the election to the dark side already Lakeland ... 🙂 ...

Anyways, crisis is a much-overused word, maybe more applicable in this context to Cyprus, Spain, Greece, Ireland, most of Africa, most of South America, USA (although I believe they prefer the term "fiscal cliff") and many others.   The use of such extreme wording is typical of Mr Pyne, most of the Liberal Party, and by consequence, many of the posters here who accept Mr Pyne's statements as gospel.

"We're all doomed, doomed I say !" (Apologies to Pte Frazer, Dad's Army)

rupert decides who wins in this country , and from which side they come (with thanks to honest john) 

in the US elections we saw the failure of Fox to sway things to the point that  murdoch has managed here, but he's pulled a huge hatchet job on gillard that is probably fatal.

abbotts a lame duck without the senate (which he won't have , half-senate election only)

so watching him mess up and flounder might be fun.  but no, i haven't conceded.

[freakiness]

Sometimes I wonder if they tell us that we're having a crisis in the hope that eventually we will believe it, so that any measures they take to increase our taxes fix the crisis, we will just be gullible enough to believe and accept whatever it is that is introduced.

Not sure, but it worked for the Nazi Party - the people were fed a whole heap of propaganda, they believed it and followed along like puppy dogs, without questioning the morality of what their loyalty facilitated.

Are you suggesting that all this talk about crisis and disaster coming from the LNP is akin to the Nazi party?

You could be on to something there.