What's A Gay Cake?

[icyfroth]

US baker told to make gay wedding cake

A US Civil Rights Commission has ordered a baker to make wedding cakes for same-sex couples, finding his religious objections did not outweigh the state's anti-discrimination statutes.

The unanimous ruling from the seven-member commission in Colorado upheld a judge's finding in December that Jack Phillips violated civil rights law when he refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple in 2012.

The couple sued.

Phillips said the decision violates his First Amendment rights to free speech and free exercise of his religion.

"I will stand by my convictions until somebody shuts me down," he told reporters.

Gary marriage remains illegal in Colorado, but the state law prohibits businesses from refusing to serve customers based on their sexual orientation.

The couple who sued Phillips, Dave Mullins and Charlie Craig, were married in Massachusetts and wanted a wedding cake for a reception to celebrate their union back home.

The panel ordered Phillips to stop discriminating against gay people and to report quarterly for two years on staff anti-discrimination training and any customers he refuses to serve.

Phillips' lawyer said she was considering appealing the ruling.

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I don't understand the problem.

Why didn't the baker just make the cake?

Why didn't the couple just go to someone who would instead of suing?

Why doesn't the baker have the right to refuse on the grounds of his beliefs?

Why is gay marriage illegal in that state yet it's illegal to refuse making a cake for an illegal ceremony? Huh? Double standards! The baker should turn around and sue the state to legalise gay marriage

And what constitutes a gay cake, anyway?

[lionrose.7]

A Gay Cake is a Happy Cake 🙂

[lis351]

Hhhmmmmmmmmmmm maybe its my middle class white girl with little to be discriminated against thinking, but I dont understand forcing someone who is clearly ignorant to do something. Pi ss and moan for sure, lead a boycott, whatever makes you feel better, but suing him and ultimately forcing him to make you a cake? I just dont get it. There is ignorance everywhere, you cant force them to change. Its like I tell the kids, there are 7 billion people on the planet and you can only control one of them, make it count.

[joz*garage]

And what constitutes a gay cake, anyway?

i dunno, pineapple?

[ca04]

why is the baker a bigot for having a different point of view/belief to homosexuals?.

why are the homosexuals not bigots for being of a different point of view/belief and

wanting to force these beliefs on every one else.?

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@ca04 wrote:

why is the baker a bigot for having a different point of view/belief to homosexuals?.

why are the homosexuals not bigots for being of a different point of view/belief and

wanting to force these beliefs on every one else.?

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So if I went to a bridal shop to buy a wedding dress and the proprietor  refused to sell me one on the grounds that my fiance was Aboriginal and her  religion disapproved of interracial marriages, would I be a bigot if I took her to court?

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@au2014_xave wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@ca04 wrote:

why is the baker a bigot for having a different point of view/belief to homosexuals?.

why are the homosexuals not bigots for being of a different point of view/belief and

wanting to force these beliefs on every one else.?

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So if I went to a bridal shop to buy a wedding dress and the proprietor  refused to sell me one on the grounds that my fiance was Aboriginal and her  religion disapproved of interracial marriages, would I be a bigot if I took her to court?

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yes hahahaha *runningaroundnekid*

na, seriously, shop owners have the right to refuse service without a reason (as far as i know). it's their business, they can do what they want.

BUT that one hsa shown that he is a bleep.

if i was gay and wanted a cake i would just take my business elsewhere.

the world is very unfair. just the day before yesty i wished i had insisted that hubby comes with me to k mart. the experience (again) on the checkout with a couple of 6 foot neanderthaler men was not so nice.

this country turns me into a man hater slowly.

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and if you went into a pub and were refused a drink because you were gay, would you just go somewhere else?

[aftanas]

I think the issue here is whether, in the provision of services, discrimination on the basis of sexual preference is permissible.

If you go back in time 50 years, segregation was practiced in America and other parts of the world.  Jobs and services were denied to non whites and non christians and gay people and women.  It was a bad time to be anything other than a white male. 

Many commentators are trying to trivialise this issue and make it about cakes.  But the real issue here is discrimination against minorities.  That is, is it OK to fire someone or deny them a job or a service because you disagree with their race, religion, sex or sexual orientation.       

[sineaterdoodah]

bravo,aftanas,that's EXACTLY it.

[the_bob_delusion]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@au2014_xave wrote:

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@ca04 wrote:

why is the baker a bigot for having a different point of view/belief to homosexuals?.

why are the homosexuals not bigots for being of a different point of view/belief and

wanting to force these beliefs on every one else.?

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So if I went to a bridal shop to buy a wedding dress and the proprietor  refused to sell me one on the grounds that my fiance was Aboriginal and her  religion disapproved of interracial marriages, would I be a bigot if I took her to court?

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yes hahahaha *runningaroundnekid*

na, seriously, shop owners have the right to refuse service without a reason (as far as i know). it's their business, they can do what they want.

BUT that one hsa shown that he is a bleep.

if i was gay and wanted a cake i would just take my business elsewhere.

the world is very unfair. just the day before yesty i wished i had insisted that hubby comes with me to k mart. the experience (again) on the checkout with a couple of 6 foot neanderthaler men was not so nice.

this country turns me into a man hater slowly.

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and if you went into a pub and were refused a drink because you were gay, would you just go somewhere else?

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You would go elsewhere and then sue then for some $$$$. 

But in all seriousness, the debate here is not about a cake but does religious rights supersede human rights?

The answer is no.