What will become of the feminists?

[village_person]

Safe Schools Coalition: sexual politics in the classroom

A taxpayer-funded sexuality program that instructs 11-year-olds to role-play gay teenagers has been accused of crossing the line between education and advocacy in the classroom.

The controversial Safe Schools Coalition program, which teaches high school students in years 7 and 8 about sexual diversity and inclusion, is pitting religious groups against gay rights advocates.

Ostensibly an anti-bullying program, it takes a politically correct approach to sex education. Teachers are told it is “heterosexist’’ to refer to students as “girls and boys”. Prepubescent children are taught the meaning of terms such as “queer’’, “pansexual’’, “sister girl’’ and “trans guy’’.

Nearly 500 of Australia’s schools are using the program and Victoria has ordered all government schools to sign on by 2019.

The program’s teaching guide, All of Us, includes a role-playing lesson plan in which kids as young as 11 are told to imagine they are 16 and going out with “someone they are really into’’.

Half the students pretend they are with someone of the same sex; the others have a partner of the opposite sex. Students have to answer 10 questions including: “When you go out with a group of friends to the movies, would you feel comfortable giving your partner a hug or a kiss?’’ They also need to name four famous Australians “with the same kind of relationship as you’’.

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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/safe-schools-coalition-sexual-politics-in-the-classroo...

If children carry the role-playing into adulthood what will become of the gay and lesbian mardi gras? Those taking part may in fact be heterosexual and merely role-playing for the event. Will the mardi gras suffer a loss of credibility?

Our future feminists may in fact be males masquerading as females and therefore their protests over various issues will be weakened.

It's a horrible thought I know but one that our community must face.

[debra9275]

the link is paywalled.

haven't we done this story already??

http://community.ebay.com.au/t5/Community-Spirit/Safe-Schools-Programme/m-p/1929160#U1929160

here is 'all of us"

if you can find the things you're talking about actually in there, could you let me know where ?

http://www.safeschoolscoalition.org.au/all-of-us

[***super_nova***]

There was a very interesting debate on IQ2 about transgender people, actually the topic to discuss was " Society Must Recognise Trans People's Gender Identities".  While there are issues to consider, there are not "horrible"  or particularly life shattering.  The simple fact is that transgender people are here, they are part of community, they need to work out individually how they wish to fit into our society, and we as the society need to learn some facts.  I started listening to the debate firmly on the "for" side, by the end I was not so sure about many of the issues.  For one I do not believe a male to female transgender person can speak on "women's issues".   Another issue I have that male to female transgender people expect to have relationship with straight men, or female to male would expect straight women to be interested  etc.   But that are problems for them to sort out for themselves. 

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/iq2/NU1612H002S00

[the_great_she_elephant]

I do not believe a male to female transgender person can speak on "women's issues". 

Anyone can speak on women's  issues - or any other issues, for that matter.  You only have to read this forum to see that 

Whether anyone listens to them or takes them seriously is another matter.

[***super_nova***]

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@village_person wrote:

If children carry the role-playing into adulthood what will become of the gay and lesbian mardi gras? Those taking part may in fact be heterosexual and merely role-playing for the event. Will the mardi gras suffer a loss of credibility?

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LOL  Loss of credibility?!

 It is a carnival staged by the LGBT community.  Today, Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras is one of Australia’s most famous and well-loved events, bringing thousands of visitors to Sydney to join in the celebrations. It captures the imagination of Australia’s LGBTQI and mainstream communities, taking over the city for weeks on end, culminating in the world-famous Parade: a colourful and dazzling night of pride, celebration and self-expression.  It's fun for everybody.  🙂

[the_great_she_elephant]

Our future feminists may in fact be males masquerading as females and therefore their protests over various issues will be weakened

Is this the latest variation on the "Feminists are all bitter, twisted dykes" mantra? It makes just aboutas much sense.

[kilroy_is_here]

Indoctrination has no part in schools

[***super_nova***]

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@village_person wrote:
 Prepubescent children are taught the meaning of terms such as “queer’’, “pansexual’’, “sister girl’’ and “trans guy’’.

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Do you really believe that children do not hear these expressions?  They hear them in school yard, they hear them from older siblings, they probably hear them on TV.  The whole school program is a teacher aimed material to help them address these issues when they arise. 

Do you really have to include the words "political correct" in every one of your posts, even when it has nothing to do with political correctness?

By the way, I have no idea what “sister girl’’ is, and so if I was a teacher, I would be need to find out what it means.

[k0llectable5]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@village_person wrote:
 Prepubescent children are taught the meaning of terms such as “queer’’, “pansexual’’, “sister girl’’ and “trans guy’’.

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Do you really believe that children do not hear these expressions?  They hear them in school yard, they hear them from older siblings, they probably hear them on TV.  The whole school program is a teacher aimed material to help them address these issues when they arise. 

Do you really have to include the words "political correct" in every one of your posts, even when it has nothing to do with political correctness?

By the way, I have no idea what “sister girl’’ is, and so if I was a teacher, I would be need to find out what it means.

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https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/lesbian-teacher-how-i-convince-kids-to-accept-gay-marriage-startin...

A primary grade lesbian teacher from an Ontario public school revealed in a workshop at a homosexual activist conference for teachers earlier this month how she uses her classroom to convince children as young as four to accept homosexual relationships.

“And I started in Kindergarten. What a great place to start. It was where I was teaching. So, I was the most comfortable there,” Pam Strong said at the conference, attended by LifeSiteNews.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/s-bear-bergman/i-have-come-to-indoctrinate-your-children-lgtbq_b_67951...

“I am here to tell you: All that time I said I wasn't indoctrinating anyone with my beliefs about gay and lesbian and bi and trans and queer people? That was a lie,” wrote Canadian gay activist Sason Bear Bergman, a woman who identifies as a transgender man, in a March 2015 piece titled “I Have Come to Indoctrinate Your Children Into My LGBTQ Agenda (And I'm Not a Bit Sorry).” Bergman holds nothing back, stating she wants to make children “like us” even if that “goes against the way you have interpreted the teachings of your religion.” I want to be present in their emotional landscapes as a perfectly nice dad and writer who is married to another guy. Who used to be a girl (kind of). Who is friendly and cheerful and not scary at all, no matter what anyone says.

In 2011 U.S. gay activist Daniel Villarreal penned a column for Queerty.com stating that the time had come for the homosexual lobby to admit to “indoctrinating” schoolchildren to accept homosexuality.

“Why would we push anti-bullying programs or social studies classes that teach kids about the historical contributions of famous queers unless we wanted to deliberately educate children to accept queer sexuality as normal?”

http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/22/transgender-characters-may-win-emmys-but-transgender-people-hurt...

It occurred to me after much self-reflection that asking a surgeon to modify my appearance through a series of cosmetic procedures was simply a socially acceptable means of self-mutilation and self-destruction. Taken to the extreme, self-destruction leads to suicide.

[lurker172602]

she wants to make children “like us” even if that “goes against the way you have interpreted the teachings of your religion.” I want to be present in their emotional landscapes as a perfectly nice dad and writer who is married to another guy. Who used to be a girl (kind of). Who is friendly and cheerful and not scary at all, no matter what anyone says.

I can't really find anything wrong in that.