on 21-03-2014 08:39 PM
What would Australia/Gondwana be like today if it had not been colonised by Britain?
Who would have colonised this country? The Dutch? The French? The Portuguese Or maybe Indonesia? or?
What would it be like under one of these other countries
What would Gondwana be like if it hadnt been colonised?
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on 22-03-2014 11:22 AM
Name one colonisation on the planet that is innocent of any cultural dilution and forward progress.Many cultures have eagerly embraced progress and improvement.
Australia is not the only country to be colonised and great things have come from this. A great nation of peoples and democracy has evolved.
Focusing on the negative, the black armband view? and ignoring all the good and great of our country? seems to be the bailiwick of some with another agenda to push.
on 22-03-2014 11:26 AM
Believe it or not, not every post has a hidden meaning or poster an agenda.
on 22-03-2014 11:31 AM
Throughout Australia lie traces of other civilizations which came and went
Amongst those advanced civilizations are numbered the Phoenicians, Spanish, Chinese
Some of those evolved civilizations left a record in the form of metal plates attached to poles/trees. Others left traces of substantial mining operations
Suffice to say, none of them was interested in colonising Australia until the British who were spurred by the need to establish a new colony in face of events in the US, primarily for strategic reasons. To populate the vastness of Australia some of the most vulnerable people of Britain were despatched to Australia for extremely minor & petty crimes in many instances
The Australian aborigine practised infanticide, cannibalism, slash and burn, according to accredited researchers whose works have been hidden in recent decades because they didn't conform with the new 'political correctness'
So what would Australia have been like today if no-one had colonised it ? Well, assumiing alcohol, mass media and welfare had never entered this country, we must assume aborigines would have continued with child-marriage, infanticide, etc.
If the Spaniards had colonised Australia, they would have dealt harshly with most aboriginals until aboriginal practises had been stamped out
If the Chinese had colonised Australia, we have no reason to believe they would have granted aborigines the life of ease they enjoy today - ditto the Indonesians
If the Phoenicians had colonised Australia, they would have treated aborigines as a slave-class due to the vast disparity between the advanced Phoenician culture and that of the primitive aborigines
The British, contrary to common belief, in fact made generous allowance in land terms for indigenous people. They also established educational facilities and strove to save young aboriginal children from being forced into marriage with aboriginal senior citizens. They outlawed cannibalism and infanticide and introduced agriculture
Currently, discussion still rages about the connection between Australian aborigines and the Vedda people of southern Sri Lanka, with many obvious and linguistic similarities between the two
It seems ironic that so many Sri Lankans and Indians now call Australia home
And several years ago I was introduced to a man who was a Lebanese-Aborigine. He'd gained a government grant to produce 'authentic Aboriginal art-work'. He was indistinguishable in appearance from both Lebanese and aboriginal people. He laughed as he told us he couldn't get local aborigines to produce the 'art work' and instead sought back-backers (Dutch, German, Irish, etc.) to produce it
Many years ago, through an association with several Lebanese families from Sydney, I learned that groups of young Lebanese men went a few times a year to rural NSW for 'kangaroo hunts' (consisting of mounted 'spotties' on trucks and random firing, thus killing, injuring and orphaning of native Australian animals and their young) after which they'd engage in rough sexual hijinks with local aboriginal girls. Doubtless these 'kangaroo hunts' resulted in the births of numerous Lebanese-aboriginal fatherless children
There's a strong physical similarity between Lebanese and aboriginal people in any case -- possibly due in part to the Phoenicians who conducted large-scale mining operations in Australia long before British colonisation. And of course the Spaniards would have left their seed within the aboriginal tribes, as would the Chinese, Dutch and other sailors who passed through - not to mention the strong contribution from the Vedda
No place is an island, not even Australia
As an aside, I'm reminded here of waiting with friends for a train on the long platform at Wagga. Numerous aborigines were already on the platform when a large family of Indians arrived. The Indians sallied forth looking resplendant in saris, seeming very much pleased with themselves and the attention they drew -- until they spotted the aborigines amongst the onlookers. Immediately, the Indians averted their faces from the aborigines as they hurried to the other end of the platform. The Indians very strongly resembled the aborigines - it would be a lie to say otherwise. And it was the Indians who appeared to become very uncomfortable about that
on 22-03-2014 11:33 AM
on 22-03-2014 11:41 AM
its a question without a clear answer. hypothetical with a motive.
on 22-03-2014 11:46 AM
@lakeland27 wrote:its a question without a clear answer
Its a question for good friendly intelligent discussion, If you dont want to participate and add an intelligent answer to an interesting question please refrain from posting...
. hypothetical with a motive.
what motive would that be? Or are you trying to make a motive?
on 22-03-2014 11:58 AM
@silverfaun wrote:Name one colonisation on the planet that is innocent of any cultural dilution and forward progress.Many cultures have eagerly embraced progress and improvement.
Australia is not the only country to be colonised and great things have come from this. A great nation of peoples and democracy has evolved.
Focusing on the negative, the black armband view? and ignoring all the good and great of our country? seems to be the bailiwick of some with another agenda to push.
the "black armband view", is that the opposite of a "whitewashed view", or a "white shoe view"?
I don't see anywhere in this thread that fits your claim, is that a "bailiwick"?
on 22-03-2014 12:05 PM
Nero_wulf,
I think this thread will go the way of any and all threads re sensible debate because it will be hijacked with all and sundry with an axe to grind or those who have a personal antipathy to anybody of the centre of politics.
I enjoyed participating and adding my opinion, thanks for posting.
on 22-03-2014 12:07 PM
do you have a link to this piece?
on 22-03-2014 12:40 PM
Ahhh. I get it now.
So this is an indigenous bashing thread? I didn't it realise it was a congratulatory thread to make us feel good about the near annilation of our indigenous people and make sure they understood how good they've got it under our murderous colonisation of them.
And here I was thinking that nero was actually branching out and with a thread aimed at starting an interesting theoretical discussion.
Well I shall leave you all to it then.