What would Australia be like today if it had not been colonised by Britain

[nero_bolt]

What would Australia/Gondwana be like today if it had not been colonised by Britain?

Who would have colonised this country?  The Dutch? The French? The Portuguese  Or maybe Indonesia? or?

What would it be like under one of these other countries

What would  Gondwana be like if it hadnt been  colonised?

[spotweldersfriend]

One post has been given the green wash,so it would appear so,inam.

[icyfroth]

What would Australia be like if it hadn't been colonised by the people thought to have walked or paddled their canoes across the straits from PNG some 30.000 years ago?

Bit of a moot point, really...

[nero_bolt]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Ahhh. I get it now.

So this is an indigenous bashing thread? I

It is???? Where? People are offering an opinion and valid ones at that so where is the bashing? 

And here I was thinking that nero was actually branching out and with a thread aimed at starting an interesting theoretical discussion.

I have but you appear to be making it political and attempting to turn it into a personal issue and a race issue.  

So far the posts have been an interesting mix and an interesting discussion, just because you dont like some of what’s been theorized doesnt give you the right to do a  post like you have making unfounded accusations and pulling the race card. 

Well I shall leave you all to it then.

Good please do as you dont appear to want to listen to or read all theories, assumptions and opinions and you only want to hear and read your narrow view and wave the race card

So thank you for not posting anymore and leaving this intelligent interesting discussions to others who wish to participate  and who dont want to or have a need to wave the race card or turn it political

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@silverfaun wrote:

Nero_wulf,

I think this thread will go the way of any and all threads re sensible debate because it will be hijacked with all and sundry with an axe to grind or those who have a personal antipathy to anybody of the centre of politics.

I agree and as you can see its happening already, unless everyone confirms to their narrow view we get posts like we are seeing now in their attempts to shut this debate down and that trusty race card is pulled and waved around....... Rather sad to see... 

I enjoyed participating and adding my opinion, thanks for posting.

You are welcome and so far there has been some excellent post and replies and no one until now needed to pull the race card and stand on their soap box.

I just hope this post goes a bit longer and more participate as there are some excellent theories and possibilities so far. 

[silverfaun]

Some people just cant get past their prejudices and the calling of the race card straight away ensures there will be no debate on this benign  and interesting post on what this country would be like under a different scenario. Thanks for that

[ufo_investigations]

Re: What would Australia be like today if it had not been colonised by Britain?

Well, you never know it could have been colonised by a foreign alien race.

[silverfaun]

Lol. just imagine it, we could have been overrun by the one eyed, one thought, tired Labor purple pollie speakers.

Wait!!...... we already are

[au.flaou]

Nero, apparently the Chinese could have colonised Australia in the 14th Century. They travelled to Western Australia in a fleet of large, teak ships at this time, looking for minerals, plants etc... which they evidently found. They were unimpressed with the land, encountered no indigenous people, gave no consideration to settling here and headed home with their loot. 

[icyfroth]

The Brits followed a time-honoured tradition when they colonised Australia. Same as when they colonised America and Africa. The 3 big A's.

Decimated and subjugated the indidigenous population by cutting off their traditional food sources, introducing wave after wave of new settlers, introducing alcohol and diseases and introducing slave labour. And they were'nt real picky about using white slave labour either.

And geuss what? It's happening all over again. Right here, right now.

BBL

[boris1gary]

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@spotweldersfriend wrote:
One post has been given the green wash,so it would appear so,inam.

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yes it appears from the longest reply that has been ticked as a solution, that Australia would have been like a long platform at Wagga Wagga train station - with link to come.

[the_great_she_elephant · Accepted solution]

 'Gondwana' was never colonised. 

Gondwana is the name given to the more southerly of two supercontinents (the other being Laurasia) that were part of the Pangea supercontinent that existed from approximately 510 to 180 million years ago (Mya) . Gondwana formed prior to Pangea, then became part of Pangea, and finally broke up after the break up of Pangea. Gondwana is believed to have broken away between ca. 570 and 510 Mya, thus joining East Gondwana to West Gondwana. It separated from Laurasia 200-180 Mya (the mid- Mesozoic era) during the breakup of Pangaea, drifting farther south after the split.

Gondwana included most of the landmasses in today'sSouthern Hemishphere including Antarctica, South America, Africa, Madagascar and the Australian continent, as well as the Arabian Peninsular and the Indian subcontinent, which have now moved entirely into the Northern Hemisphere.

(Wikepedia)

Supposing the Australian continent had not been colonised by the English, it could well have ended up in several different hands. There is a theory that the Portuguese could have discovered Australia as early as the 16th century.) The reefs around the Abrolhos Islands hold the wrecks of at least two Dutch East India Company ships. The Batavia (1629and the Zeewijk (1627) and Dirk Hartog left a dinner plate with the following inscription on it, nailed to a post on Rottnest Island in 1616

On the 25th October, arrived here the ship Eendracht of

Amsterdam; the first merchant, Gilles Mibais, of Luyck; Captain Dirk
Hartog; of Amsterdam; the 27th ditto set sail for Bantam; undermerchant

Jan Stoyn, upper steersman, Pieter Dockes, from Bil, Ao, 1616.,  

The Dutch could easily have claimed Western Australia and had La Perouse sailed into Botany Bay a few days earlier (and returned safely to France), New South Wales might well have been Nouvelle Normandie.  Australia before federation was a collection of separate colonies -  it could very easily have been a collection of colonies under the control of several different nations - and who knows how many times those colonies might have been sold or traded away to third parties by their respective 'owners.'