on โ14-06-2014 03:22 PM
"Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them"
From the moment George W. Bush and his "Coalition Of The willing" invaded Iraq in search of those non-existant 'weapons of mass destruction' the tragedy that is currently unfolding there was not not only predictable, but virtually inevitable and I cannot believe that sending the troops back in is somehow going to 'fix' it.
on โ14-06-2014 04:31 PM
on โ14-06-2014 04:37 PM
@the_great_she_elephant wrote:"Those who fail to learn from the mistakes of history are doomed to repeat them"
From the moment George W. Bush and his "Coalition Of The willing" invaded Iraq in search of those non-existant 'weapons of mass destruction' the tragedy that is currently unfolding there was not not only predictable, but virtually inevitable and I cannot believe that sending the troops back in is somehow going to 'fix' it.
I can't believe they really think they should go back.
โ14-06-2014 06:30 PM - edited โ14-06-2014 06:32 PM
I agree with you 100% SheEl. As the experts are now saying.....you cannot export democracy.
This was a region which was part of Arabia and up to when Sadam took over in the 1960's his Party stopped the inter tribal slaughter for the first time in its history, sometimes by brutal but necessary means From memory the country of Iraq was only created around 1924.
I spent considerable time in the area in a past life, and I predicted years ago that it would revert to its pre Sadam days once the troops withdrew.
The culture will not support democracy. Only a strong dictator like Sadam could control the inter-tribal slaughter.
I also believe Sadam was demonised by the Western interests to justify their actions to gain a foothold in the oil rich area..
The invasion from day one was based on lies....created by the Bush administration.
How many service men and women died or came home damaged.....how many innocent civilians died? And for what?
The same is going to happen in Afghanistan.
As Oscar Wilde said.....Americans are such careless people. They make a mess and leave it for others to clean up.
on โ14-06-2014 07:32 PM
An old station hand named Billy was overseeing his herd in a remote pasture in the outback when suddenly a brand-new BMW advanced toward him out of a cloud of dust. The driver, a young man in a Brioniยฎ suit, Gucciยฎ shoes, RayBanยฎ sunglasses and YSLยฎ tie, leaned out the window and asked the old man, "If I tell you exactly how many cows and calves you have in your herd, will you give me a calf?" Billy looks at the young man, who obviously is a yuppie, then looks at his peacefully grazing herd and calmly answers, "Sure, why not?" The yuppie parks his car, whips out his Dellยฎ notebook computer, connects it to his Cingular RAZR V3ยฎ cell phone, and surfs to a NASA page on the Internet, where he calls up a GPS satellite to get an exact fix on his location which he then feeds to another NASA satellite that scans the area in an ultra-high-resolution photo. The yuppie then opens the digital photo in Adobe Photoshopยฎ and exports it to an image processing facility in Hamburg, Germany ...... Within seconds, he receives an email on his Palm Pilotยฎ that the image has been processed and the data stored. He then accesses an MS-SQLยฎ database through an ODBC connected Excelยฎ spread sheet with email on his Blackberryยฎ and, after a few minutes, receives a response. Finally, he prints out a full-colour, 150-page report on his hi-tech, miniaturized HP LaserJetยฎ printer, turns to Billy and says, "You have exactly 1,586 cows and calves." "That's right. Well, you'll be helpin yourself to one of me calves, then, since you won it fair en square." says Billy. He watches the smartly dressed yuppie select one of the animals and looks on with amusement as the man gingerly picks it up & stuffs it into the boot of his car. As the yuppie is carefully brushing the dust & hair off his suit, Billy says, "Hey, if I can tell you exactly what work you do & where you come from, will you give me back my calf?" The yuppie thinks about it for a second, wondering what this wrinkled up dirt encrusted uneducated old man could possibly know? He grins and then says, "Okay, old fella, why not? I'm a believer in fair play." "You're a politician & you work in Canberra." says the old timer. "Wow! That's correct," says the yuppie, "but, tell me how on earth did you guess that?" "No guessing required.." answered Billy "You showed up here even though nobody called you; you want to get paid for an answer I already knew, to a question I never asked. You used millions of dollars worth of equipment trying to show me how much smarter than me you are; and you don't know a thing about how working people make a living - or about cows, for that matter. This is a herd of sheep. Now give me back my dog." AND THAT FOLKS IS WHAT THE PROBLEM IS ALL ABOUT.
on โ15-06-2014 02:05 PM
Unbelievable. Coalition of the Killing yet again.