When is Racism not racism.

[the_bob_delusion]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfpADBQZfUE

I've seen this ad a few times now. I don't think the ad gets its point across. How is it discrimination against just indigenous is a stretch? Just cause the person feel like they've been discriminated because they're indigenous doesn't make it so. You can look suspecious with your hands tucked into your sleeve regardless of your race. Plus that woman frankly just look white to me. And some women simply prefer not to sit next to man on a bus. The last guy just look mediteranian to me even though the only bit related to the indigenous is the "ab0" joke. 

I get the point they're trying to make on the ad but it just ends up mocking the indigeous for being cry babies. I don't like this ad. 

[village_person]

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@*jimmy1717* wrote:

Yeah...let me guess.

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This is a piece I came across about 5 years ago and decided to save it.

“The sad truth for middle-class moralisers is that most Australians are unhelpfully non-racist. The book “How Australia Compares”, by Rodney Tiffen and Ross Gittins, includes the result of a **1990’s survey on the sorts of people who were not desired as neighbours. Some of the respondent percentages were: drug addicts 74, heavy drinkers 60, people with a criminal record 45, emotionally unstable 38, and immigrants and people of different races 5. ONLY 5%! And that was the lowest in the list of countries surveyed: Austria and Belgium 20%, Japan 17%, France, Italy, and Germany 13%.”

**The survey dates from the mid 90’s. If someone has a more recent international survey could they please inform the debate by putting it up.

The chimera of Australians’ overt racism is simply that; a chimera. The codologist have been busy designing the ‘Racism. It stops with me’ campaign probably to soak up a few unemployed people. We’ve all seen that lady unloading on that person because of their race on the train but how many such incidents have been reported this year? Maybe 3875. Or is it 8453. Perhaps it’s 14. When Adam Goodes had his susceptibilities wounded and his vanity hurt how many people - out of a crowd of about 30,000 - were escorted out of the stadium? One 14-year-old girl.

How'd you go jimmy1717? Did you guess correctly?

[jimmy*part4]

How'd you go jimmy1717? Did you guess correctly?

I'm not ready to answer.

Did I make Bobs point for him?

Or did you leave something out, lol.

[jimmy*part4]

Although I couldn't read the book without buying it, I scanned through another book by that author.

It was good. A complete factual breakdown of your countries business, education, government...everything. (I didn't get the name of it and can't find where I found it.)

Here's where you got the page from....

 

[channys_mum]

Funny how the band wagon becomes empty once common sense and a few facts hop on.

[bushies.girl]

Yeah funny about that CM   ..... 

[***super_nova***]

There one thing that I really hate is when people say:  "stop being a victim".  Blaming the victim is the lowest of low. 

OK, Australia may not be the most racist country in the world, but that does not mean that there are not many racists here.  Most of the time people do not express their racism outright, it is more subtle.  But it really came to the surface when Pauline Hanson was in a full flight; at that time I was too ill to drive, and it was amazing the conversation I overheard & incident I witnessed on the public tranport practically on daily basis. 

Even here in this topic,  somebody above said that the lady in the shop is "not all that dark"!!!  ????  So?  She was obviously aboriginal and I bet my bottom dollar she is watched when she comes to shops more than white woman, and the white woman will get a job ahead of her, and ahead of a foreigner.  I would hate to be a young Muslim in this moment, and looking for a job would be 100x more difficult than for other Australian kids.

[k0llectable5]

Sorry guys I have read parts of this thread, please forgive me for not reading every single post and replying to all individually.  I agree with some points posters have made here, some things I blatently disagree with.

I personally think the word racism has become an evil dirty word, when it really doesn't need to be.  There is nothing wrong with wanting to preserve your own race.  I am a white European (Dads side Italian, Mums English/Australian -not aboriginal but 4th generation born in OZ) I want to keep my race "strong" so I married a white European so we can have white European children.  Nothing to do with anyone else, I didn't want to marry an Indian/African/Middle Eastern person because I didn't want to mix my bloodline with theirs.  Not because I have a problem with any other race on the planet but because of a personal choice for the future of my bloodline and my race.  Others can do as they please, I have no problem with mixed race families/relationships, I dont think mine is better because it's a white family I just wanted it to be that way because I want my race to stay white.  As I'm sure alot of Japanese what their families to stay Japanese, Africans want their family to be African, Jews want their families to be Jewish etc. If you could care less and believe race is just a "social construction" good for you I disagree and so I will do what I believe to be right, and you'll do what you believe to be right.  If thats racist, then I am a racist...

This video I'm about to post is American but it raises some excellent points about racism, I reccommmend peeps giving it a watch if you have a spare hour or so 🙂

[***super_nova***]

When I was looking for partner, it never occurred to me to think about skin colour or race.  In one stage I went out for a while with a black Jamaican, some years later I went out with with Tunisian man; I dated them because there was something about them I liked, skin colour or race did not come in to it.   If our relationship developed my children would be nice chocolate brown, and that would be great.  It is also healthy, to have kids with somebody genetically quite different from you. 

But in any case, we all came out of Africa, so few thousands of years ago Homo Sapiens were all black.  Interestingly, Neanderthals were light skinned and had red hair. 

I did not watch the whole clip but I think the preoccupation with race in USA is just weird.  There are many white people who have black or Indian ancestors, and there is unlikely any black person who does not have some white in them. 

To answer the question the clip poses:

To be racist means that when you look at a person the first thing you notice what colour their skin is, and attach importance to it.

[k0llectable5]

Thanks for sharing your point of view Nova.  With me though it wasn't really a conscious choice (at the time) it was just more something I felt inside that urged me toward those similar to myself.  It's not until I've matured and realized there is something important (to me) about being white and loving it and being proud of it. White pride does not mean white suppremacy...jmo

To be racist means that when you look at a person the first thing you notice what colour their skin is, and attach importance to it.

That is such a true statement.  But imo it's only a bad thing if you look and judge the colour and then place yourself or your race on a higher level somehow.

And I dont believe we were all black once.  If I can find the vid I'll post it but in several articles/vids I've seen scientists speak of three different human skull types.  The Mongoloid, Negroid and Caucasoid.  These are three distinct types of human skull that have been studied.  And I personally believe that we've all more likely come from one of these three...

[village_person]

Is this racism:

Surgery after pageant after-party turns ugly

A man who was slashed in the face with a machete during a wild brawl at a beauty pageant after-party in Melbourne’s south-east early this morning will undergo surgery for his wounds, police say.

More than 1000 members of Melbourne’s Sudanese community had gathered at a public hall in Clayton last night to celebrate the Miss South Sudan Australia beauty pageant, held the previous day in Springvale.

Etc

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/surgery-after-pageant-afterparty-turns-ugly-20110425-1dtcu.html#ix...

Was the Miss South Sudan pageant open to all females?