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gleee58
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There were some mighty fine speeches and moments there today.

 

It's a shame the PMs dept stuffed the arrangements for so many but great that they broadcast on some large screens outside. 

 

Imo, some people should have stayed away and made their seats available to those who would have appreciated them.

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I thought the bouquet, the boos and the cheers were a bit rude.

 

It was not a political rally but a gathering of Australians from all walks of life and both sides of politics to honour a great Australian.

 

Whether you agreed with his politics or not, Gough Whitlam was a great Australian and a fantastic orator.  I can not think of any other politicians since Gough who could get the point across with dignity without name calling and gutter language.

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It was a public funeral for a politician......a raffle being organised in the aisle of the Church would have been a bit 'rude' but crowds outside the Church considered it appropriate to "Boo" those Libs that were brave enough to attend, that obviously, in many people's opinion deserved to be "Boo-ed". It was not disrespectful to Gough either....he would have loved this send off by the peopleSmiley LOL

 

I loved that someone handed a beautiful bouquet of flowers to our first serving female Australian PM after she entered the Church and walked down the aisle to her pew. Gough would have loved this gesture too.

 

When has offering a bouquet of flowers to someone been rude? i did not think this gesture 'rude' at all.

The occasion was to celebrate Gough's life and achievements and anyway, flowers are for all occasions.

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It was not a funeral and it was not in a church.  It was a public memorial service in Sydney Town Hall and the cheers and boos were not from the public outside but from those lucky enough to get a seat inside.

 

Why do you think it was brave of any Liberals to attend?  Both sides of politics had great respect for Gough the man, but not necessarily his politics.  The PM can not win....he would have been very petty if he had not attended to show respect for a great man and would have richly deserved the derision that would have come his way.

 

I still think cheers and boos based on politics at a Memorial Service is rude, or at least inappropriate.  They were not giving a send off to Gough but playing politics.

 

That is my opinion and you are entitled to yours.

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The boos actually started outside and then continued inside.It was almost an instinctual, natural reaction.

 

I'm not sure how I feel about it but I can understand it - here they were gathering to celebrate the life of a man who gave so much to the country and two people show up who have both played big parts in demolishing everything Whitlam strived to achieve.

 

I also think that Abbott got out of his car with what can only be described as an arrogant, victorious smirk on his face.I am not sure what he was trying to portray but it was very odd.

 

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To me the boos represented the true feeling of of those who are hurting and will hurt even more if the Abbott government has it's way. I am sure Gough would not have had a problem with people booing someone who is trying to destroy everything he stood for, I think he would have "booed" along with them, in a gentlemanly fashion of course ๐Ÿ™‚

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I didn't watch the service but I did see the crowd outside booing TA. It reminded me of a recent sporting event in Sydney where the same thing happened.

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to lyndal: We can agree to disagree then:)

 

Noel Pearson spoke well about Gough.

As an Australian, take 18 minutes this morning to view the Noel Pearson eulogy to Gough Whitlam.

 

http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2014/11/the-pearson-whitlam-eulogy/

 

 

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Yes, we can agree to disagree about that aspect of the service, but I won't disagree about Noel Pearson's eulogy.

 

Actually there was some very good and very moving speeches made yesterday.  They did the great man proud.

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I really enjoyed this piece from Mark Latham.

 

Among life's most reliable performance indicators, when your wife screams at you for something you've written, you know you've got a problem.

 

That's what happened to the News Corp blogger Andrew Bolt when he started dancing on Gough Whitlam's grave within hours of the great man's death. His wife yelled at him. And with good reason.

 

Whitlam died in the early morning of Tuesday, October 21. By 8.13am Bolt was attacking him, particularly the Whitlam government's decision to "end the assimilation project, both for Aborigines and immigrants".

 

Bolt thought it was more important to vent, for the 865th time, his personal obsession with race than to show respect for the Whitlam family in its moment of grief.

 

He thought that abusing a fallen prime minister was more important than conveying respect for the pinnacle of Australian democracy: the office of prime minister itself.

 

Perhaps, in her anger, Mrs Bolt is an advocate of the timeless adage, passed down by generations of Australian mothers and grandmothers, that "if you can't say something good about someone who has just died, don't say anything at all".

 

It's not as if her husband is short of things to say โ€“ space fillers for this role in the media. He could have published his 539th condemnation of the ABC, for instance, or his 724th denial of climate change.

But that's the thing about fanaticism: it blurs one's judgment. It makes political nutters regurgitate their ideological obsessions, blind to the respectful norms of the rest of society.

 

While 99 per cent of people lead normal, reasonably balanced lives, in which the emotions of life and death are seen as vastly more important than party politics, inside Australia's media bubble there's a group of activists with a different mindset. They regard all aspects of life as inherently political.

 

Thus for Bolt, Whitlam's death had nothing to do with the passing of a father, a grandfather, a brother โ€“ the mournful sorrow of a grieving family. It was solely a political event, requiring a right-wing response.

 

But it wasn't just Bolt. If the sounds of fury in his household had been one-off, an aberrant domestic dispute between husband and wife, it might have been possible to ignore his vindictiveness.

 

Regrettably, Bolt's response was typical of the right-wing hunting pack. Like a gang of skinheads kicking over tombstones, Gerard Henderson, Greg Sheridan, Miranda Devine and Rowan Dean also rushed into print, vilifying Whitlam within days of his death.

 

In a piercing commentary on his own values, Henderson said that praise of the former prime minister had made him unwell, forcing him to "lie on the floor with a wet towel on his forehead".

This is part of a pattern in our national life โ€“ an echo of Alan Jones' slur that Julia Gillard's father had "died of shame".

Australian conservatives don't do death well.

 

Rhetorically, they claim to respect the institutions of family and democracy, but in moments of loss and personal tragedy, their true nature surfaces: displaying a subhuman meanness of spirit.

 

In objecting to the media's praise of Whitlam, Bolt asked: "Will John Howard, a conservative who ruled four times longer and left the economy in wonderful shape, be given this massive and worshipful coverage?"

I hope so. Anyone who has served our country in its highest office deserves a reverential period of national mourning โ€“ similar in tone to Whitlam's memorial service on Wednesday.

Howard wasn't my cup of tea, but when the time comes, I won't be critical of his public record. It's not that hard to hold one's tongue out of consideration for a family feeling the loss of a well-loved patriarch.

 

For many years, in and outside Parliament, I gave Howard both barrels. A repeat dose at the time of his passing would be a sign of OPD: obsessive political disorder.

Even worse, it would raise the spectre of that most horrible thought in life: being like Andrew Bolt.



http://www.smh.com.au/comment/critics-display-meanness-of-spirit-on-whitlams-death-20141106-11hq8n.h...

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