on 29-12-2012 08:02 PM
I actually met someone with a science degree today who doesn't believe in evolution and KNOWS that all humans came from Adam and Eve.:O
"Why are there still monkeys today if humans evolved from monkeys?" is a common belief amongst creationists. Who here doesn't know the answer to this?
Who here doesn't think that evolution is the best explanation for all the different living species on Earth today?
on 30-12-2012 10:35 PM
OK, define what is God. I'll tell you if I believe that or not.
Believe what?
on 30-12-2012 10:44 PM
Theist ; believes in a personal religious God.
A- Theist, someone who doesn't believe in a God.
babies don't have a belief.
on 30-12-2012 10:45 PM
They can't reject a belief in God, which is what an atheist does, what is so hard to understand about that?
they can't choose a belief in God either.
Bob? What is so hard about understanding that? Rejecting a belief in a deity (as Az said, that is what atheism is) is a position of choice.
on 30-12-2012 11:33 PM
Theist ; believes in a personal religious God.
A- Theist, someone who doesn't believe in a God.
babies don't have a belief.
A- Theist with "A" expressing negation - how can one negate something which one is unaware of?
on 31-12-2012 08:21 AM
are we playing word games???
No one is born with a belief in any religious God. You're clutching at straws saying they haven't rejected any God.
on 31-12-2012 08:29 AM
You shouldn't challenge someone's religious belief or their faith Darki. They can believe whatever they want despite the facts. Is that right?
I just don't think they should teach that to little kids.
BTW it's blasphemous to say Jesus was a Jew even though he was. I have seen faith so strong that giving people facts is completely useless. If it wasn't for the bible, where do some Christians get the idea to hate Jews.
Regarding evolution, there's tonnes and tonnes of evidence and with the recent sequencing of the genome you can actually see the family tree that Darwin had proposed.
That was the silly thing bob, I wasn't challenging anything, it seemed to be just an ordinary interesting conversation... they certainly didn't say anything to give a clue to their thoughts, other than the Adam and Eve thing and even then it was only a discussion....
I really don't challenge other people's beliefs... I'm not that interested and everyone has the right to believe whatever suits them, but I am interested in history.
The hatred of the Jews is due to the Romans giving out that the Jews were responsible for Jesus's death. Rome and Pontius Pilate 'washed their hands' of the problem after he was condemned... so the Jews got the blame...
Actually Jews were never known to crucify people, that was a Roman way of dealing with people
on 31-12-2012 08:32 AM
I have friends that are Atheist, friends that take the Adam and Eve story literally, friends that are Muslim....Our beliefs differ but those are our personal beliefs. Real friends have respect for each others' beliefs. So how do you lose friends over personal beliefs? Can you explain that to me?
I think it's easy.
Start a religion vs evolution discussion with both sides thinking they are right and that the other side is completely stupid for not agreeing with them and you lose a friendship.
There is no other topic as divisive.
Crikey martini.... I am pretty long in the tooth and long ago learned not to start a fight over religion... I am happy to say I don't know... I have no set beliefs.
So far as I was concerned when we moved on to other topics it was just a conversation that faded... nothing more!
on 31-12-2012 08:36 AM
Which God do infants and children believe in?:|
Children are neither atheists nor religious... they are just kids. They have no reason to think about it at all, they have their parents... that's what they know 🙂
on 31-12-2012 08:43 AM
Weird isn't it that people fall out about a belief.
I can understand countries fighting about whether one country should have a bomb or not - that is something we can see, touch and know what it does...
But a belief in God or not is so nebulous... there is no proof either way.
I think the smartest man in history was Moses... he was planning to take his people out of Egypt. There were a lot of them and he knew he would have to set down some rules if he was going to be able to have some control.
Soooo he went up on a mountain, worked out that rules would best suit the situation, wrote them down and then told a wonderful story of God speaking to him from a burning bush...
Why would God need a burning bush? Well of course telling his people that God had ordered these comadments did the trick didn't it, and we still try to follow those rules today...
Good thinking Moses :^O
on 31-12-2012 08:46 AM
I don't care who or what people believe, each to their own.
What I see on here time & time again, from a few is the total rubbishing of anybody who has faith in God or Allah or anything else.
They are hell bent on propagating their athiest views.