Who is more oppressed?

[the_bob_delusion]

Go.

[the_great_she_elephant]

There are, of course, photos in existence of  a certain  politician doing his thing in budgie smugglers, but I don't think he'd have got far if he'd tried wearing them in Parliament.  

[johcaschro]

So, how would you answer my other question? The one about the right of men to walk the streets wearing a mask?

[tezza2844]

That bug is annoying, this may fix it: http://unix.rulez.org/~calver/funny/swf/kill.swf

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@johcaschro wrote:

So, how would you answer my other question? The one about the right of men to walk the streets wearing a mask?

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I would suspect his intentions since, off the top of my head, I can't think of any occasion (other than a street parade) where a man might  consider it  culturally appropriate  to walk the streets wearing a mask.  If you can think of such a scenario perhaps you could enlighten us. 

[raptor_rebooted]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

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@johcaschro wrote:

So, how would you answer my other question? The one about the right of men to walk the streets wearing a mask?

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I would suspect his intentions since, off the top of my head, I can't think of any occasion (other than a street parade) where a man might  consider it  culturally appropriate  to walk the streets wearing a mask.  If you can think of such a scenario perhaps you could enlighten us. 

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how about answering this question:

I'd ask you how you would feel if there were  any cultural  group in Australia which encouraged its male members to wear a mask in public and that the female members were not encouraged to?

If you can think of such a scenario perhaps you could enlighten us. 

not me.  i knew what johcascrho

meant when asking that question.

i'll give you a clue:

emphasis on IF

[johcaschro]

Please. It was a "thought experiment". How would you feel? and you answered that you would suspect his intentions.

But, if we support the right of women to go out wearing a mask, isn't it a sexist position to begrudge a man that same right?

[johcaschro]

I should have added that I don't feel it is "culturally appropriate" for Muslim women to go out wearing a mask in Australia. it's definitely not a part of our culture.

[the_great_she_elephant]

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@johcaschro wrote:

Please. It was a "thought experiment". How would you feel? and you answered that you would suspect his intentions.

But, if we support the right of women to go out wearing a mask, isn't it a sexist position to begrudge a man that same right?

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 If a man felt it was culturally appropriate for him to wear a burqa, then of course I wouldn't begrudge him the right to do so. Do you know of any situation where that might be the case?

[johcaschro]

I didn't mention a burqa, I said "a mask" you know, one of those things which conceals most of the face and effectively hides the identity of the person wearing it.

I'll bet you there are men in Australia who genuinely feel it is "culturally appropriate" for them to wear a mask in public; most of them being heavily built, tattooed and rding Harley Davidsons. So, it's ok for them?

it may be part of their culture, but just as it's not ok for them to revel in their cultural uniqueness, I repeat, it is not a part of the Australian culture to wear a mask in public. For anyone. Let's not be sexist or discriminatory about it.

[the_great_she_elephant]

I'll bet you there are men in Australia who genuinely feel it is "culturally appropriate" for them to wear a mask in public; most of them being heavily built, tattooed and rding Harley Davidsons. So, it's ok for them?

I attended a wedding where one of the groomsmen belonged to that particular culture. For cultural reasons he did not feel able to wear the cummerbund worn by the other groomsmen, because it would have covered his club belt buckle. At no time did he express a cultural need to hide his face - in fact he posed proudly for photos with the rest of the wedding party.

I think you are confusing 'culturally appropriate' with 'shrewdly convenient'.