Why are people such staunch Labor voters?

[curmu-curmu]

Particularly when every Labor governement in living history has amounted such huge debts whilst in office?

Or is it just that they blindly follow the old mantra, that 'Labor is for the working man?'

Now don't get me wrong - I don't particularly like Abbott, and I sure as h3ll didn't like Rudd or Gillard, but there's so much more to a political party than it's leader.

Feel free to discuss...

[nevynreally]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

Define fair share. 99% of the Australian population is not living in slavery or begging.

You really don't know or understand just how wealthy is this top 1%, do you? You can't imagine it. But please don't stop trying. Once you understand, then you'l wonder how you could ever have supported such a sub-class of people who thrive on your ignorance and on your docile complicity.

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What you don't get is that I really don't care. I don't want the brass ring. I have my family they are worth way more than money. I'm sorry you don't have that.

[myoclon1cjerk]

Not a fan of Edward de Bono,I take it.

[poddster]

That too has been reported and any more vitriolic comment will get the same treatment.

[iapetus_rocks]

In fact lapetus  what you and your ilk want is to have something handed to you on a silver platter without having to do any thing, your ilk consider it their divine right to have some one hand feed them because thet are incapable of doing anything for themselves.

No, I worked all my life and I don't need any social services support.

I just resent seeing people of the 1% wriggle out of paying their fair share of tax. and I resent that this 1% makes life much worse for the rest of us because they can afford to buy influence in the govt and on and on . . it's a circular effect.

And I really don't understand why some people of the remaining 99% who are exploited by this incredibly wealthy 1% act as their unpaid defenders.

[poddster]

Exploited? How?

[nevynreally]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

In fact lapetus  what you and your ilk want is to have something handed to you on a silver platter without having to do any thing, your ilk consider it their divine right to have some one hand feed them because thet are incapable of doing anything for themselves.

No, I worked all my life and I don't need any social services support.

I just resent seeing people of the 1% wriggle out of paying their fair share of tax. and I resent that this 1% makes life much worse for the rest of us because they can afford to buy influence in the govt and on an on . . it's a circular effect.

And I really don't understand why some people of the remaining 99% who are exploited by this incredibly wealthy 1% act as their unpaid defenders.

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so, it's sour grapes from you then? That 1% that you say makes life difficult for the rest are actually providing jobs.                                   

Envy is one of the seven deadly sins. And green doesn't really look good on anyone. Unless you're a frog.

[poddster]

Unless you're a frog.

Like Christine?

[iapetus_rocks]

Surely you understand that to become really wealthy you must rely on the efforts of others who are necessarily paid less than the real worth of their work. it's a Marxist argument but it's as true today as it was back then.

To pay someone less than their labour is worth is to exploit them. But what is more, to use one's  wealth and position to effectively buy a disproportionate degree of influence in govt decisions is to repress and to exploit all those who cannot afford to buy such influence.

Sure, it's a process which has been going on for a very long time, but that still doesn't make it right,

[myoclon1cjerk]

And yours weren't?

[nevynreally]

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@iapetus_rocks wrote:

Surely you understand that to become really wealthy you must rely on the efforts of others who are necessarily paid less than the real worth of their work. it's a Marxist argument but it's as true today as it was back then.

To pay someone less than their labour is worth is to exploit them. But what is more, to use one's  wealth and position to effectively buy a disproportionate degree of influence in govt decisions is to repress and to exploit all those who cannot afford to buy such influence.

Sure, it's a process which has been going on for a very long time, but that still doesn't make it right,

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So, what's their labour worth? Australians get paid a decent wage for their efforts, ask any other country. Being born into wealth is not a crime, not sure why you think it is. Very odd.

Matter of fact, you don't have to rely on others in order to become really wealthy. You have to have smarts, believe in yourself, and not blame others when things don't work out the way you wanted them to.