27-04-2021 04:17 PM - edited 27-04-2021 04:18 PM
Current figures:
USA 98k cases per million 1764 deaths per million.
India 13k cases per million 142 deaths per million.
on 16-05-2021 02:59 PM
16-05-2021 07:00 PM - edited 16-05-2021 07:01 PM
@dontmissthese wrote:I was wondering why I hadn't received any email notifications for answers. Forgot to 'subscribe' 🙂
Yes, pulling current stats re: USA vs India was a mistake.
The only brightness on the horizon is the pending approval of virtually instant and accurate Covid tests.Hopefully the false positives ( dead virus being detected by PCR swab testing ) may become a thing of the past although a false positive has been preferable to a false negative.
The longer a pandemic rages the more 'variants' will emerge as a result of mutations attempting to trick us.
Fingers crossed that 'rapid' testing will help us put the virus in our dust trail.On the 'trapped overseas' note.
I was in Malaysia when it was first locked down on 18th March 2020. When ScoMo said 'GET HOME NOW' and while I personal think he is a d#!k, that is exactly what I did. Thankfully I got back without having to pay for Business class flights and only had to go into 14 day home quarantine.
You were wise. Forget even overseas travel, I think just about everyone in Australia has been aware since last year that even interstate travel is fraught. That things can change at the drop of a hat.
I was talking to a kinder teacher a while back who wanted to visit her daughter in WA but she cancelled as she was worried about a lockdown and having to go into isolation when she returned and could not afford to miss work.
My son & his wife flew out up to the Gold coast a few weeks ago and travelled down to Byron Bay for a few days. You guessed it, just when they had the covid trouble break out there. They had to isolate at home and undergo covid testing immediately.
It's just the way things are at the moment, unfortunately. Situations can change rapidly so those who do travel need to be aware they could be stranded for a while or have their plans disrupted. I can't see the situation changing a lot in the next few months but once vaccines kick in, let's hope things start to improve for everyone.
21-05-2021 12:44 PM - edited 21-05-2021 12:47 PM
@springyzone wrote:Personally, I don't see why returning travellers should not be required to have had the vaccine before they are allowed in and even then, they should still need to quarantine. This may slow things up for returnees but if we have to make some sacrifices (and we certainly do, with snap lockdowns and restrictions possible at any time), then they unfortunately need to as well.
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I can appreciate where you're coming from springyzone but having a requirement to be vaccinated in order to return to a country of residence where home, business interests and loved ones are is a further step towards mandatory vaccination. Once vaccinations become mandatory, we are in a fascist type of scenario.
The situation we have in the world today is a corrupt relationship between big business and politicians. Many of these large corporations are as corrupt as sin. It is rife throughout the Western world as well as else where. We have a vaccine that has been rushed out in less than one eighth of the time that many other vaccines are tested in. The horrific side effects from this have been under reported.
We also have a grossly incompetent government at this particular time. Look at the state that the Middle East is in. This is due to the antics of three dishonorable men.
There are proven treatments that are nearly always effective in the early stage treatment of this particular Corona virus. They are oral drug and supplement treatments with minimal if any side effect. People could opt for that and go with the quarantine that you suggested.
on 21-05-2021 01:04 PM
Oh brother, that is absolutely full of it. 🤣
on 21-05-2021 01:11 PM
But it is straight out of the Pete Evans handbook
How could it be anything but
on 21-05-2021 01:18 PM
LOL - I'd have thought India a tad past - early treatment of anything.
As for that maniac - I wouldn't be game to read his cookbooks.
on 21-05-2021 01:21 PM
He is one activated a hem hole
on 21-05-2021 01:23 PM
@sandypebbles wrote:He is one activated a hem hole
That is a great cryptic clue. lol
on 21-05-2021 03:19 PM
@4channel wrote:
@springyzone wrote:Personally, I don't see why returning travellers should not be required to have had the vaccine before they are allowed in and even then, they should still need to quarantine. This may slow things up for returnees but if we have to make some sacrifices (and we certainly do, with snap lockdowns and restrictions possible at any time), then they unfortunately need to as well.
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I can appreciate where you're coming from springyzone but having a requirement to be vaccinated in order to return to a country of residence where home, business interests and loved ones are is a further step towards mandatory vaccination. Once vaccinations become mandatory, we are in a fascist type of scenario.
The situation we have in the world today is a corrupt relationship between big business and politicians. Many of these large corporations are as corrupt as sin. It is rife throughout the Western world as well as else where. We have a vaccine that has been rushed out in less than one eighth of the time that many other vaccines are tested in. The horrific side effects from this have been under reported.
We also have a grossly incompetent government at this particular time. Look at the state that the Middle East is in. This is due to the antics of three dishonorable men.
There are proven treatments that are nearly always effective in the early stage treatment of this particular Corona virus. They are oral drug and supplement treatments with minimal if any side effect. People could opt for that and go with the quarantine that you suggested.
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Oh Jesus Christ on a stick with pumpkin..... here we go again!!!! 🤦🏻♀️
Please tell me 4C.... what is it about World Wide PANDEMIC that you don’t understand?
And I’d love to be made privy of when you graduated from uni with a medical science degree, You know, since you seem to think you have all the right info needed to prevent/cure/ rid us of covid-19.
All hail 4C .... he can single handedly save the world crisis!
We ALL know you don’t like the vaccine. We ALL know what you feel about this govt. We ALL know you think there are bigger conspiracies at play here, world domination of a sorts..... that’s ok. Because of your constant vigilance on this matter, I have built up quite a supply of tinfoil, in prep for dooms day! 😐... (tongue in cheek, for those in the back row listening to yappy rat dogs 🤭)
I agree with springy. Returning travellers should be vaccinated, and quarantined ... but I’d like to see quarantine extended to 21 days instead of 14!
What price for life, hey? Is 2-3 weeks and 2 injections so terrible a price to pay?
And don’t you dare start on all this blood clot side effect drama that the media is blowing up out of proportion. Unlike the media, I actually research my information from reputable websites (unlike the ones in almost all of your links, I’d like to add). Are you aware, that in Australia alone, there are approximately 30,000 cases of blood clots reported and medically treated each year. So pardon me if 24 post covid clots, doesn’t raise red flags for me, considering Australia has vaccinated approx 3.4mil heads to date! (With approx 91,000 having received both injections, to date). Any other severe reactions, while undesirable, are purely unfortunate. EVERY medical procedure has risks. EVERY SINGLE ONE, even a simple removal of a cataract can have undesirable consequences (as I very well know) ....
So, for the sake of world wide sanity..... I ask you to get of the band wagon! You don’t have the qualifications to preach your ill researched nonsense nor the openness to give a non-biased opinion. JUST STOP! Please & thank you 🙏
21-05-2021 03:50 PM - edited 21-05-2021 03:51 PM
@4channel wrote:We also have a grossly incompetent government at this particular time. Look at the state that the Middle East is in. This is due to the antics of three dishonorable men.
We also have a grossly incompetent government at this particular time
Is “We” meaning Australia? Or an individual state you live in?
Look at the state that the Middle East is in
ya lost me with this. Can you please explain how this fits in with the pause on flights from India or on the political landscape in Australia? Or on the spread of COVID?
This is due to the antics of three dishonorable men
I’m lost again!