Why do people feel the need

[krazy.kiwi]

to make jokes about guys wearing kilts?

My 13 yr old son donned his Dad's kilt for a formal dinner at scouts tonight.

The scouts were fine - the worst comment was "really A, really???"

But one of the Mothers thought it was fun to refer to him as a young lady! X-(

By the way he looked absolutely stunning, but I am biased. 😉

[krazy.kiwi]

Scouts are not all boys now and these ones shun bullying in all forms.  Not saying they are angels, but I have seen them take other scouts to task when they see one of their own being teased  - and not necessarily my son either.

Talking to the police at Jamboree, compared to the usual bunch of 11-14yr olds they deal with, the 13,000 scouts on site were an absolute dream.

[the_great_she_elephant]

I think the fact that it was a 'formal dress' occasion would have meant that most of the boys were wearing clothes that took them slightly out of their comfort zone - and presumably he was wearing it 'dressed up' with an appropriate shirt, socks shoes etc. so it should have been clear it was a 'special occasion' outfit. Did he wear sporran?

[**meep**]

 scouts aren't neccessarily angels. i was a scout 🙂 like any boys they give each other hell.

wearing a kilt is asking for it, despite how good it can look.

true and it wouldn't bother a true Scot, so my husband reckons :^O

[lakeland27]

i believe kiwi when she says the boys at jamboree are better behaved too.

i just know there's no way i could have been made to wear a kilt. (which is probably why i was never at a jamboree) when i was that age we only joined to escape our parents and to be with  others, there wasn't any particular moral 'lets make men out of them' thing going on, just the usual tracking camping stuff (which people did anyway). one assistant scout master was a bully, and another a paedophile. . the scoutmaster himself was ex-army and he was OK.

[lakeland27]

true and it wouldn't bother a true Scot, so my husband reckons :^O

one of my BIL's is from dundee, despises kilts.. he gets annoyed if you just say the word 🙂

[cherry*135]

I think wearing for a male wearing a kilt, the kilt jibes go with the territory, no matter what your age group is.. something your son may have to get used to in the future when wearing a kilt -needs to brush off/ignore silly kilt jokes

(like silly kiwi sheep jokes;-))

[krazy.kiwi]

I think wearing for a male wearing a kilt, the kilt jibes go with the territory, no matter what your age group is.. something your son may have to get used to in the future when wearing a kilt -needs to brush off/ignore silly kilt jokes

(like silly kiwi sheep jokes;-))

I don't think it should make anyone fair game. I think it is discriminatory and highly inappropriate.

When I worked in a male dominated field, someone once made highly inappropriate jokes (complete with an arm around the shoulder)  to me and about me. I successfully had him dealt with because of sexual harrassment.  Jokes are only jokes if they are taken as jokes, not just if it wasn't meant as one.

I detest sheep jokes, detest being teased because I wear glasses or am the only female at work. all of these and more I have been subjected to over the years. To me it is a form of bullying.

Does it mean any woman who wears a stunning outfit is asking to be subjected to crass comments from guys walking past? Or worse???

[*crikey*mate*]

Kiwi, I actually feel pretty bad now, you've taught me a perspective (or at least awakened an awareness) about heritage.

My OH's Mother wanted him and his groomsmen to wear kilts at our wedding. OH wasn't fussed either way, it wasn't something important to him, but I was DEAD against it.

For starters, their family tartan woulda clashed with the colour scheme something shocking, but the whole kilt thing just didn't fit my image of how my wedding would be iykwim.

I really am ashamed right now, that at 23 I was that shallow that i didn't even consider my MIL's feelings about heritage (and probably my FIL - he even plays the BagPipes professionally - was in the Wings FilmClip for Mull of Kyntyre too, nor had it ever occurred to me until I read your thread.

(None of her other sons wore kilts down the aisle either, and I don't recall any of them ever wearing one for any occasion - but still - I didn't even give her feelings about it a consideration)

It's funny though, I wonder if similar comments would have been made had your boy worn an outfit of another cultural heritage, or is it just the kilts iykwim. I can't imagine anyone commenting on say that of an Islander, a Maori or Serviceman. iykwim.

But so happy that the other Scouts have such respect.

[krazy.kiwi]

Well I did ask him if he would consider the traditional dress from my country (just like his Uncle Marty wore at my wedding) and he looked at me in horror.

"I'm too pale to get away with that one Mum and I would freeze!!."

 :^O :^O :^O

Marty is my half Maori younger brother and wore the grass skirt to give me away.

[krazy.kiwi]

i believe kiwi when she says the boys at jamboree are better behaved too.

i just know there's no way i could have been made to wear a kilt. (which is probably why i was never at a jamboree) when i was that age we only joined to escape our parents and to be with  others, there wasn't any particular moral 'lets make men out of them' thing going on, just the usual tracking camping stuff (which people did anyway). one assistant scout master was a bully, and another a paedophile. . the scoutmaster himself was ex-army and he was OK.

Sorry I had to reply - there were probably as many female scouts as there were male scouts.

Girls have been active youth members of scouts for about 30 years in Australalia.

And nobody made my son wear a kilt. The formal night was suggested by the scouts and each scout chose their clothes themselves.