on 23-09-2013 08:56 AM
Interesting facts:
"In a peer-reviewed paper of mine to be published shortly, I conducted an historical audit of all known health and noise complaints made about Australia’s 51 wind farms from 1993 to 2012. Using four sources (wind company records, submissions made to three parliamentary enquiries, local media monitoring records and court affidavits) I calculated the number of complainants around Australia.
More than two-thirds of Australian wind farms including more than half of those with large turbines have never received a single complaint. Two whole states – Western Australia and Tasmania – have seen no complaints.
Almost all (98%) of complainants made their first complaint after 2009 when anti wind farm groups began to add health concerns to their wider opposition. In the preceding years, health or noise complaints were rare despite large and small-turbine wind farms having operated for many years."
on 23-09-2013 06:35 PM
To run transmission lines form that 'nothingness' would cost a lot and there would be a lot of loss on the lines. If it is reflective rays that are the problem than the blades could be painted with non reflective paint 🙂
on 23-09-2013 06:37 PM
What is the bet that now that you have mentioned reflective rays some one will complain about reflections from turbines 🙂
on 23-09-2013 06:41 PM
i know it would be more expensive, but would it be that bad?
i mean, you don't have to put them into the middle of the desert, just maybe 5 kilometers away would be enough i think.
yes, i know there are sorta single houses out there but the gov/companies could buy those dwellings which have a nice bit of nothingness around them to have more space for windparks.
on 23-09-2013 06:49 PM
Everywhere that i have seen them overseas they have been in open fields away from inhabited areas.
They look majestic, bit like butterflies 🙂
I have seen a few variations too I like the propeller ones
on 23-09-2013 06:54 PM
seriously, i don't think we really need them simply because there isn't enough done to stop the warming so it doesn't bleeping matter if we do that tiny little bit or not.
the world is going to hell in a hand cart and the interests of big business are just too "important" to keep the planet inhabitable.
on 23-09-2013 07:02 PM - last edited on 23-09-2013 09:32 PM by li.vish
Psychogenic illness is defined as a constellation of symptoms suggestive of organic illness, but without an identifiable cause, that occurs between two or more people who share beliefs about those symptoms. The idea that fear of illness can precipitate symptoms goes back at least to the time of Francis Bacon who said, “Infections … if you fear them, you call them upon you.”
KN: "5 kilometers away would be enough i think."
TS: "....... I guess......"
How about something more than the above, a definitive scientific noise analysis/study would be acceptable, not a guess!
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on 24-09-2013 07:28 AM
@twinkles**stars wrote:So you are saying those that suffer ill effects from wind turbines are making it up?
Yes.
Take birds deaths due to wind towers. There has been a lot written about this and the stats are often used in the argument about location of the towers.
Birds are pretty sensitive creatures. Yet, they continuously make the mistake of flying into the towers. The collision kills them.
Now I am wondering how it is that humans can hear the sound a wind tower makes but a bird does not? Ditto with bats.
on 24-09-2013 07:38 AM
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@twinkles**stars wrote:So you are saying those that suffer ill effects from wind turbines are making it up?
Yes.
Take birds deaths due to wind towers. There has been a lot written about this and the stats are often used in the argument about location of the towers.
Birds are pretty sensitive creatures. Yet, they continuously make the mistake of flying into the towers. The collision kills them.
Now I am wondering how it is that humans can hear the sound a wind tower makes but a bird does not? Ditto with bats.
You honestly believe that humans can't hear a wind turbine? Thanks for the laugh lol
on 24-09-2013 07:39 AM
I would also like to point out that his is a bit like the vaccination argument where nearly all the reports about ill effect can be related directly back to a paper published by Dr Nina Pierpont.
Yes she is a doctor. But she is a paediatrician. She was also an anti wind farm activist prior to writing the report. And most telling, her most damning stats are based on peoples reactions when they are within .4 of a km from the site. As we don't build these things so close to anyones houses, it is all a little irrelevent isn't it?
Since her report, there have been hundreds of reports and reviews trying to back her up/disprove her theories. And not one has been able to provide any support for her.
on 24-09-2013 07:41 AM
@twinkles**stars wrote:
@i-need-a-martini wrote:
@twinkles**stars wrote:So you are saying those that suffer ill effects from wind turbines are making it up?
Yes.
Take birds deaths due to wind towers. There has been a lot written about this and the stats are often used in the argument about location of the towers.
Birds are pretty sensitive creatures. Yet, they continuously make the mistake of flying into the towers. The collision kills them.
Now I am wondering how it is that humans can hear the sound a wind tower makes but a bird does not? Ditto with bats.
You honestly believe that humans can't hear a wind turbine? Thanks for the laugh lol
Only if you are standing down stream of wind within a certain distance.
You visited a wind tower what? Once? And you came close enough to have a good look up at the thing? Did you go and see what you could hear from the nearest resident? Or even from the nearest street?