Winx inspires chainsaw artist

[davidc4430]

Winx inspires chainsaw artist John Brady to carve her for posterity

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2018-11-06/winx-inspires-chainsaw-artist-john-brady-to-carve-her/1...

amazing talent

[marwi_3023]

Pity about the jockey.
Forever under the yoke of human oppression

[chameleon54]

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@marwi_3023 wrote:
Pity about the jockey.
Forever under the yoke of human oppression

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What the ?????????

Too deep for me................... All I see is a very talented artist who has created an amazing work of art . Why cant we just celebrate the guys skill and talent and appreciate his work without constantly being offended by every little thing ?

[davidc4430]

it was the skill of the artist i was complimenting.

i dislike horse racing, and any thing that requires an animal to entertain us for their right to life.

[chameleon54]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

it was the skill of the artist i was complimenting.

i dislike horse racing, and any thing that requires an animal to entertain us for their right to life.

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You are entitled to hold that opinion dave and i can understand where you are coming from, I just don't take it all as literally as you.

Like thoroughbred horses there are some people who live to run. They spend years of their lives getting out of bed at sparrows call to train before work and then again after work. On the weekends they attend track & field competitions, running in races against each other. They progress up the rankings and for an elite few, the dreams of racing against competitors from other countries come true. The pinnacle of sport for any athlete is to be part of the entertainment spectacle viewed by millions called the Olympics. Pure entertainment for the masses as we watch humans running against each other in competition, barracking for our favorite and celebrating their achievements.

Carefully bred and highly trained race horses and greyhounds are no different to these humans. From what I have seen, they are hard wired to run fast and compete against others in the race. All humans are doing is channeling that energy and natural instinct in a structured format. It could be argued that it is cruel to keep animals that have been bred over generations to run fast cooped up in some-ones backyard where they dont have the opportunity to ever run fast with others of their own kind. ie as family pets.

[lyhargr_0]

Humans get to choose whether to train as an athlete, compete in a race or not    ..... Animals are given NO such choice     ....  

[the_great_she_elephant]

The Cliffsofmoher dies after shocking injury during Melbourne Cup 2018

https://www.theroar.com.au/2018/11/06/cliffsofmoher-suffers-shocking-injury-during-melbourne-cup-201...

[davidc4430]

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@chameleon54 wrote:

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@davidc4430 wrote:

it was the skill of the artist i was complimenting.

i dislike horse racing, and any thing that requires an animal to entertain us for their right to life.

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You are entitled to hold that opinion dave and i can understand where you are coming from, I just don't take it all as literally as you.

Like thoroughbred horses there are some people who live to run. They spend years of their lives getting out of bed at sparrows call to train before work and then again after work. On the weekends they attend track & field competitions, running in races against each other. They progress up the rankings and for an elite few, the dreams of racing against competitors from other countries come true. The pinnacle of sport for any athlete is to be part of the entertainment spectacle viewed by millions called the Olympics. Pure entertainment for the masses as we watch humans running against each other in competition, barracking for our favorite and celebrating their achievements.

Carefully bred and highly trained race horses and greyhounds are no different to these humans. From what I have seen, they are hard wired to run fast and compete against others in the race. All humans are doing is channeling that energy and natural instinct in a structured format. It could be argued that it is cruel to keep animals that have been bred over generations to run fast cooped up in some-ones backyard where they dont have the opportunity to ever run fast with others of their own kind. ie as family pets.

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people who decide to be athletes who then break down mid race (or whatever) very rarely get 'put to sleep'

and please lets not go back down the 'greyhounds love to race' line again.

we have witnessed just way too much 'leaked' evidence of what happens to many greyhounds who dont win.

sure some very lucky ones get rehomed like my Foo, but dont kid yourself we will ever see 100% rehoming of ex racing greyhounds.

now that the outrage of the 'live baiting' and 'mass graves' stories has blown over its back to normal for the GH racing business i'm sure.

[chameleon54]

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@lyhargr_0 wrote:

Humans get to choose whether to train as an athlete, compete in a race or not    ..... Animals are given NO such choice     ....  

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I am bemused by the attitude of many animal rights campaigners who claim to be animal lovers.

The only people that we lock away in confined spaces and deprive them of contact with family and friends are serious criminals. The worst of the worst, yet " animal lovers '' condone keeping their beloved pet in the unnatural, air conditioned, plastic infused , highly artificial environment of their home. Never experiencing the wind or rain or the thrill of chasing another animal ( thats cruel isnt it ? )

Exercise consists of walking with said owner on a length of rope or if they are lucky, once a week to the dog park where the only interaction they have is with dogs of completely different breeds ( totaly unnatural ). Diet is some homogenised, highly processed vegetable based cube that comes from the supermarket shelf in a sealed plastic bag and for a special treat ,  pulp from a can. Just like race horses these "pets " have no say in it !!!

And what is this all for ? Its certainly not for the benefit of the dog. The whole pet industry is built upon the exploitation of animals for humans need for companionship and entertainment.

Is it wrong ? Well personally I find it quite acceptable for humans to use animals in this way ( but then I eat meat too ) . But it does draw the obvious question. Why is it OK for humans to totally regulate a pet animals whole life, totally depriving it of its natural pack instincts and any natural behaviors, yet its not OK to let an animal that instinctively wants to run, race with others of its own kind in a race ?

In my view both examples are equally exploitive. The only question is how we each exploit animals for our own personal wants and needs isn't it ? If we are exploiting them for our own benefit, then thats OK isnt it, coz we love them, but if some-one else exploits animals in a different way, well shock horror, thats definately cruel !!!

[lyhargr_0]

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@chameleon54 wrote:

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@lyhargr_0 wrote:

Humans get to choose whether to train as an athlete, compete in a race or not    ..... Animals are given NO such choice     ....  

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I am bemused by the attitude of many animal rights campaigners who claim to be animal lovers.

The only people that we lock away in confined spaces and deprive them of contact with family and friends are serious criminals. The worst of the worst, yet " animal lovers '' condone keeping their beloved pet in the unnatural, air conditioned, plastic infused , highly artificial environment of their home. Never experiencing the wind or rain or the thrill of chasing another animal ( thats cruel isnt it ? )

Exercise consists of walking with said owner on a length of rope or if they are lucky, once a week to the dog park where the only interaction they have is with dogs of completely different breeds ( totaly unnatural ). Diet is some homogenised, highly processed vegetable based cube that comes from the supermarket shelf in a sealed plastic bag and for a special treat ,  pulp from a can. Just like race horses these "pets " have no say in it !!!

And what is this all for ? Its certainly not for the benefit of the dog. The whole pet industry is built upon the exploitation of animals for humans need for companionship and entertainment.

Is it wrong ? Well personally I find it quite acceptable for humans to use animals in this way ( but then I eat meat too ) . But it does draw the obvious question. Why is it OK for humans to totally regulate a pet animals whole life, totally depriving it of its natural pack instincts and any natural behaviors, yet its not OK to let an animal that instinctively wants to run, race with others of its own kind in a race ?

In my view both examples are equally exploitive. The only question is how we each exploit animals for our own personal wants and needs isn't it ? If we are exploiting them for our own benefit, then thats OK isnt it, coz we love them, but if some-one else exploits animals in a different way, well shock horror, thats definately cruel !!!

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Thats your opinion and you are entitled to it   ..... it's certainly NOT mine