on 12-05-2014 10:16 AM
For some strange reason I'm finding it difficult to post comments on some political threads so I decided to start my own.
I would have to say the worst government in recent history would have to be the one lead by Gough, with those lead by Howard and Abbott being a close second.
Compared to those three, the Rudd and Gillard Government Punch and Judy show doesn’t rate mention.
on 13-05-2014 05:11 PM
on 14-05-2014 08:00 AM
The key was that Indonesia found it necessary to seek approval, before it invaded. Therefore to stop the invasion all that had to happen was for one of the key players, and we were a key player, to say no, and then taken some kind of action to demonstrate that when we say no, we mean no.
For instance, we could have gotten the East Timorese Government to invite Australia to conduct a joint live fire exercise on its soil and for that purpose we could have, within a few days flown in a rounded out 1RAR with rounded out 107 Field Battery, and moved a few Mirages’ and F111’s Darwin.
As for acting alone, so what you are saying, if you see a wrong is being, or about to be committed, it’s OK to turn a blind eye as long as everyone else does the same. Not me. In any event, the Indonesian Defence Force, though numerically superior, was then, and remains now, one of the most rag tag poorly equipped and even more poorly trained armies in the world, and they know it. That is, they were not then, and are not now, up to a stand up fight with anyone let alone us.
Therefore if we had said no and shown that we meant it, then the likelihood is they would not have invaded; and even if they did, and we had to withdraw, we could have continued the fight in the UN on East Timor’s behalf.
To me that is a far better outcome than simply standing back and watching the murder for a fifth of a countries population.
on 14-05-2014 09:25 AM
Only one of the three you mention cause me any concern and in the case of Afghanistan if we were to consider ourselves a just and human society we had no option but to get involved. Or are you saying our involvement wasn’t justified. If so are you saying we should have simply turned a blind eye to a government run by people who made the stoning of women guilty of religious crimes the half time entertainment at local soccer matches?
But then your list is somewhat incomplete. For instance you seem to forget mention of our wholly justified interventions in Zmbarbwie, Korea, Borneo, Somalia, the Solomon Islands and East Timor.
That is, there comes a time when the only thing you can do to make things right is to us force. Sometimes we made mistakes. But most of the time we got ti right.