Would you expect to pay?

[daydream**believer]

So my tenants rang me last week to ask if my electricity was on.

I said it was and they tell me that theres isnt.

They said the safety switch is off and when they try to flick it back on, it goes straight off again.

I asked if they had unplugged appliances and was told, yes, they have unplugged everything.

So, i call our electrician.

He says, due to the torrential rain we had had, there may be water damage in the roof or something similar.

He goes to the house, has a look around. Goes in the garage and sees a power board has been left plugged in, switched on and sitting in the garage doorway which is a big puddle of water.

He switches it off, goes inside, flicks the safety switch and it stays on.

He checks out in the roof just to be sure and checks the power board readings and sees nothing else that would cause the power to go out.

He says he will wait a few days to send the bill as we were expecting more big rain and if the power goes out again, then we know there is another problem.

Well, we had more rain. They had no black out and ive now got an electrician bill.

So, as a tenant, would you expect to pay this bill? It was completely their fault after all

Im taking it over to them tomorrow and i expect them to not be happy and i am ready to put them in their place if they have a whinge.

And if they winge too much, the next form they get will be to tell them get out

[izabsmiling]

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@freddie*rooster wrote:

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@izabsmiling wrote:

I'd think you'd have trouble proving that it was their fault,that it was deliberate and intentional . If it hadn't rained and all that water gotten in the doorway it wouldn't have happened. If it's the house next door I'm glad that you didn't investigate as you may have gotten electrocuted (as could your tenants if they weren't on the ball..which btw some people aren't by nature)

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I'm not a sparky, but I believe the water wasn't what caused the overload, it was the number of power cords they had plugged into that power board which caused the overload.

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I thought it shut off because it was in a puddle of water .

[izabsmiling]

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@*pepe wrote:

the OP was worded just fine.

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@*pepe wrote:

the OP was worded just fine.

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for you..in your opinion..for you to give your opinion

not for me ..in my opinion..to give my opinion (which is what was being commented on)

[the_hawk*]

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@freddie*rooster wrote:

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@izabsmiling wrote:

I'd think you'd have trouble proving that it was their fault,that it was deliberate and intentional . If it hadn't rained and all that water gotten in the doorway it wouldn't have happened. If it's the house next door I'm glad that you didn't investigate as you may have gotten electrocuted (as could your tenants if they weren't on the ball..which btw some people aren't by nature)

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I'm not a sparky, but I believe the water wasn't what caused the overload, it was the number of power cords they had plugged into that power board which caused the overload.

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Freddie it wasn't over loaded, it was the RCD "earth leakage breaker" that detected electrical current was going somewhere it shouldn't have been and shut off the power.

Its a safety device to prevent electrocution, nothinmg to do with load   

[cherry*135]

The opening post gives a lot of information.

He goes to the house, has a look around. Goes in the garage and sees a power board has been left plugged in, switched on and sitting in the garage doorway which is a big puddle of water.

The electrician noted that as the only thing that could have put the power off after investigating all other possible problems in the house. 

[*pepe]

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@izabsmiling wrote:

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@*pepe wrote:

the OP was worded just fine.

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@*pepe wrote:

the OP was worded just fine.

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for you..in your opinion..for you to give your opinion

not for me ..in my opinion..to give my opinion (which is what was being commented on)

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everyone else seemed to find it quite clear - perhaps you didn't read it right. 🙂

[*elizabeths-mum*]

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@am*3 wrote:

The owners or their RE agent usually gets the tradesmens bills. Up to them to pay it and get the money off the tenant, if the tenant was responsible.

We don't get bills incurred by our tenant.

[the_hawk*]

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@*pepe wrote:

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@izabsmiling wrote:

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@*pepe wrote:

the OP was worded just fine.

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@*pepe wrote:

the OP was worded just fine.

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for you..in your opinion..for you to give your opinion

not for me ..in my opinion..to give my opinion (which is what was being commented on)

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everyone else seemed to find it quite clear - perhaps you didn't read it right. 🙂

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Yes it was all there in english and wasnt hard to read

[izabsmiling]

perhaps , though I did read it several times as I have the most recent info.

I can't say what I really want to say about it all 

I will say ..my opinion doesn't mean much really  ....I would suggest that DDB or anyone wanting factual info and advice

should call The tenants Tribunal or whatever and  to get more than CS'ers opinions .

[freddie*rooster]

Oh ok, I wondered if it was overloaded, i've had this happen in places with limited power points.

[cherry*135]

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@*elizabeths-mum* wrote:

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@am*3 wrote:

The owners or their RE agent usually gets the tradesmens bills. Up to them to pay it and get the money off the tenant, if the tenant was responsible.

We don't get bills incurred by our tenant.

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Do you use a RE to manage the property?  Are the tradesmen (plumbers,electricians .. called by you or RE to attend your leased property?

Do your tenants have many bills where they have damaged something and need a tradesman to fix it?

Genuine questions.. wondering if you as an owern or the RE called a tradesman to your leased property and  it was tenants fault, and the tradesman sent the bill to the tenant.. the trademan would have to wait if tenant decided they won't pay it.. if they didn't pay it  they would have a lot of hassle getting the money from them.

If the bill was paid by the owner and the owner or RE sent the bill on to the tenant, the owner would have some pull in getting the tenant to refund them?.. could be dealt with by a dispute held in the Tenancy tribunal?