Wuhan Bans Eating Wild Animals

[icyfroth]

Eating wild animals has been banned in Wuhan, amid mounting pressure for the government to crack down on the illegal wildlife trade.

The Chinese city at the centre of the coronavirus pandemic is known for its wet markets – blamed by many for being the source of the virus that has killed more than 326,000 people around the world.

Now, eating wild animals, as well as hunting them within city limits, has officially been prohibited, with the city in China’s Hubei province declaring itself a “wildlife sanctuary” on Wednesday, CBS

reported.

Government-sanctioned hunting for “scientific research, population regulation, monitoring of epidemic diseases and other special circumstances” is the only exception.

The new policy, which went into effect on May 13, will stay in place for five years, according to a notice released by the Wuhan government today. 

https://www.news.com.au/world/asia/wuhan-bans-eating-wild-animals-after-coronavirus-linked-to-wet-ma...

Why only five years? And what will they do to enforce it? 

[not_for_sale2025]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

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However protein from meat isn't dependent on what the animal ate.

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That's pretty much right. Red meat, white meat, fish and eggs all have a very similar source of protein. Some fish eat fish and the Dietitians strongly recommend them for protein.

[icyfroth]

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@davewil1964 wrote:

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@not_for_sale2025 wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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We don't get nutrition per se from meat, we get protein. Protein is protein, even from vegetables.

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Protein is a nutrient. Red and white meat are also rich in fatty acids and many important vitamins and minerals. And protein is not protein. Protein from meat contains all of the essential amino acids that the human body needs. Plant sources lack one or more amino acids. 

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However protein from meat isn't dependent on what the animal ate.

Icy - eating virus laden animals is the problem. If the animal isn't diseased, the eater won't be either.

I realise that you don't have a basic understanding of biology, but that means you probably shouldn't comment. Or physics, or immunology.

Sorry. I just realised I was asking you to not comment on things you don't understand, which would just about stop your comments.

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hahaaa...you can ask...

[4channel]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@davewil1964 wrote:

Meat IS protein. Do you get that?

It doesn't matter what the animal eats, their meat is made predominantly from protein. Some plants also produce protein, which provides the same amino acids that meat does. Which is what muscles (meat) is made from.

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Sorry, but it does matter. We get our meat from grass-eating animals. Cattle and sheep, poultry, mainly. Horses and pigs ,not so much, but still mainly vegatation-eating animals.

Start eating dogs,cats,rats,bats other carnivorous animals, ok if you're starving in a famine, but health problems in the long run.

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I agree with you icyfroth. There are also more parasites in the flesh of carnivorus animals than with herbivores. And you're very right about people having problems in the long run.

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Carnivores know that eating other carnivore carcasses transmits diseases

by University of Granada

https://phys.org/news/2017-12-carnivores-carnivore-carcasses-transmits-diseases.html

Epub 2017 Jul 17.

Carnivore Carcasses Are Avoided by Carnivores

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28609555/

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As shown in the above articles, even some of the animal kingdom are aware of this.

[*kazumi*]

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@icyfroth wrote:

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We get protein from vegetables and meat from animals and animal products (eggs)  who in turn get protein from eating vegetation.

I'm sorry you don't get that!

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Pigs and chickens are omnivorous.  Hens will eat various seeds but they also spend their days hunting for grubs, insects and even mice.  They will also eat anything bigger once it dies including other hens.  Cattle will also eat meat if they come across a carcass.  I used to give my horse Livamol (meat/bone meal) .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuIzdI78yY4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1uFTjzDJHg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jA7Bs4likU4

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[icyfroth]

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@4channel wrote:

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@icyfroth wrote:

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@davewil1964 wrote:

Meat IS protein. Do you get that?

It doesn't matter what the animal eats, their meat is made predominantly from protein. Some plants also produce protein, which provides the same amino acids that meat does. Which is what muscles (meat) is made from.

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Sorry, but it does matter. We get our meat from grass-eating animals. Cattle and sheep, poultry, mainly. Horses and pigs ,not so much, but still mainly vegatation-eating animals.

Start eating dogs,cats,rats,bats other carnivorous animals, ok if you're starving in a famine, but health problems in the long run.

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I agree with you icyfroth. There are also more parasites in the flesh of carnivorus animals than with herbivores. And you're very right about people having problems in the long run.

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Carnivores know that eating other carnivore carcasses transmits diseases

by University of Granada

https://phys.org/news/2017-12-carnivores-carnivore-carcasses-transmits-diseases.html

Epub 2017 Jul 17.

Carnivore Carcasses Are Avoided by Carnivores

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28609555/

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As shown in the above articles, even some of the animal kingdom are aware of this.

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Thank you for those links, 4chan.

They pretty much explain why carnivores (or omnivores, as humans are styled) don't eat carnivores. "Dog does not eat dog".

For a carnivorous animal, such as a fox or a marten, eating carrion from another carnivore, especially of the same species, increases the probability of contracting pathogens that could endanger its life.

Prions such as the virulent kuru, which, in the 1950s, ended the lives of many natives of Papua New Guinea who practiced cannibalism rituals, are examples of such pathogens.

Prions: 

"Prions are misfolded proteins with the ability to transmit their misfolded shape onto normal variants of the same protein. They characterize several fatal and transmissible neurodegenerative diseases in humans and many other animals. It is not known what causes the normal protein to misfold, but the abnormal three-dimensional structure is suspected of conferring infectious properties, collapsing nearby protein molecules into the same shape. The word prion derives from "proteinaceous infectious particle". The hypothesized role of a protein as an infectious agent stands in contrast to all other known infectious agents such as viruses, bacteria, fungi and parasites, all of which contain nucleic acids (DNA, RNA or both)."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion

Pathogens:

a bacterium, virus, or other microorganism that can cause disease.

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Since we cook our food the danger of parasites and even pathogens is low.  Except prions, which remained in cooking meat, like the CJD, which of course, came from beef.

BUT i wonder about those 2 articles claiming that dogs will not eat other canines.  Most of parasites are not transmitted by eating something dead.  Worms live in intestines and are transmitted by eggs in feaces, which are then picked up by another animal, or some are carried by fleas and as the dog (or cat) catches the flea,  they ingest the eggs.  But the actual worms would not survive the acid in stomach.  Canines have particularly potent acid in their stomach; it will dissolve bones and can deal, up to a point, even with salmonella.  

[icyfroth]

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@*kazumi* wrote:

Since we cook our food the danger of parasites and even pathogens is low.  Except prions, which remained in cooking meat, like the CJD, which of course, came from beef.

BUT i wonder about those 2 articles claiming that dogs will not eat other canines.  Most of parasites are not transmitted by eating something dead.  Worms live in intestines and are transmitted by eggs in feaces, which are then picked up by another animal, or some are carried by fleas and as the dog (or cat) catches the flea,  they ingest the eggs.  But the actual worms would not survive the acid in stomach.  Canines have particularly potent acid in their stomach; it will dissolve bones and can deal, up to a point, even with salmonella.  

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Ok. But do they do they know or care about this in the wet markets of  Wuhan or Bangkok or wherever, where they slaughter to order? Do they examine the animal (dogs, cats, bats rats, snakes etc,, for parasites, before they kill it and wrap it up to take home?

Doubt it.

"Most of parasites are not transmitted by eating something dead".

Mostly, you have to kill it before you can eat it, surely!.