YHWH the name of God.

[alvi.owe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wiBtYITrxM

[rabbitearbandicoot]

Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ.

- all of these scriptures from thos links demonstrate that God and Jesus are separate individuals.

I don't know what you are trying to demonstrate - please tell me.

[owen_alvi]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

Isa 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation: I will trust, and not be afraid; for Jah, Jehovah, is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation.

 Look! God is my salvation;

    I will trust, and I will not be afraid,
for my strength and might is Yah, Yahweh;
    and he has become salvation for me.”

2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

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Psalm 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.

Hebrews5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Psalm 78:35And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.

1 Corinthians 1:30But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

Exodus 33:14And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.

Matthew 11:28"Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Deuteronomy 30:20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days:

Colossians 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Deuteronomy 32:39See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
John 10:28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Psalm 27:1A Psalm of David. The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?
John 8:12Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
1 Chronicles 28:9And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.
1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
Nehemiah 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.
Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Psalm 24:10Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.
1 Corinthians 2:8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Psalm 66:16 Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what he hath done for my soul.
Luke 8:39Return to thine own house, and shew how great things God hath done unto thee. And he went his way, and published throughout the whole city how great things Jesus had done unto him.
Psalm 62:12Also unto thee, O Lord, belongeth mercy: for thou renderest to every man according to his work.

Matthew 16:27For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done

Psalm 119:89Your word, O Yahweh, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens

Mark 13:31Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away

Psalms 78:35

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@owen_alvi wrote:

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

Isa 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation: I will trust, and not be afraid; for Jah, Jehovah, is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation.

 Look! God is my salvation;

    I will trust, and I will not be afraid,
for my strength and might is Yah, Yahweh;
    and he has become salvation for me.”

2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

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Psalm 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.

Hebrews5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Psalm 78:35And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.

1 Corinthians 1:30But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

Exodus 33:14And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.

Matthew 11:28"Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Deuteronomy 30:20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days:

Colossians 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Deuteronomy 32:39See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
John 10:28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Psalm 27:1A Psalm of David. The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?
John 8:12Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
1 Chronicles 28:9And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.
1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
Nehemiah 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.
Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Psalm 24:10Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.
1 Corinthians 2:8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Psalm 66:16 Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what he hath done for my soul.
Luke 8:39Return to thine own house, and shew how great things God hath done unto thee. And he went his way, and published throughout the whole city how great things Jesus had done unto him.
Psalm 62:12Also unto thee, O Lord, belongeth mercy: for thou renderest to every man according to his work.

Matthew 16:27For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done

Psalm 119:89Your word, O Yahweh, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens

Mark 13:31Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away

Psalms 78:35

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I see. What you are saying is that in the old testament God said "X" or was atributed "Y" atribute and in the new testament Jesus said "X" or was atributed "Y" atribute, so, therefore they must be the same??

Of course, I dispute that.  It's like saying that because you said "Lunch is Ready" and I said "Lunch is ready" - that you and I are the same person. It's like saying because you have brown hair, and I have brown hair, we are the same person. Please don't think I am being flippant here, but can you see what I mean.

[owen_alvi]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

I am going through those links but I keep coming up with things like:

"Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians "which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ."

what are you trying to say exactly?

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Who has performed and done this, calling the generations from the beginning? I, Yahweh, the first, and with the last; I am he." Isaiah 41:4

Thus says Yahweh, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, Yahweh of hosts: ‘I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god." Isaiah 44:6

"Listen to me, O Jacob, and Israel, whom I called! I am he; I am the first, and I am the last." Isaiah 48:12

"When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, ‘Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.’" Revelation 1:17-18

"And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life.’" Revelation 2:8

"Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay everyone for what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end." Revelation 22:12-13

‘You are my witnesses,’ declares Yahweh, ‘and my servant whom I have chosen, that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me.’" Isaiah 43:10

"But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth." Acts 1:8

"I am Yahweh; that is my name; my glory I give to no other, nor my praise to carved idols." Isaiah 42:8

"For my own sake, for my own sake, I do it, for how should my name be profaned? My glory I will not give to another." Isaiah 48:11

And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed… Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world." John 17:5, 24

"for my people have committed two evils: they have forsaken me, the fountain of living waters, and hewed out cisterns for themselves, broken cisterns that can hold no water." Jeremiah 2:13

On the last day of the feast, the great day, Jesus stood up and cried out, ‘If anyone thirsts, let him come to me and drink. Whoever believes in me, as the Scripture has said, "Out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."’" John 7:37-38

For I Yahweh do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, are not consumed." Malachi 3:6

"Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever." Hebrews 13:8

Zechariah 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

1Corinthians2: 7But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: 8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.

[owen_alvi]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

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@owen_alvi wrote:

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

Isa 12:2 Behold, God is my salvation: I will trust, and not be afraid; for Jah, Jehovah, is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation.

 Look! God is my salvation;

    I will trust, and I will not be afraid,
for my strength and might is Yah, Yahweh;
    and he has become salvation for me.”

2 Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the Lord Jehovah is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.

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Psalm 18:2 The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.

Hebrews5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
Psalm 78:35And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.

1 Corinthians 1:30But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:

Exodus 33:14And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest.

Matthew 11:28"Come to me, all who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Deuteronomy 30:20 That thou mayest love the LORD thy God, and that thou mayest obey his voice, and that thou mayest cleave unto him: for he is thy life, and the length of thy days:

Colossians 3:4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
Deuteronomy 32:39See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
John 10:28And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Psalm 27:1A Psalm of David. The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? the LORD is the strength of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?
John 8:12Then spake Jesus again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life.
1 Chronicles 28:9And thou, Solomon my son, know thou the God of thy father, and serve him with a perfect heart and with a willing mind: for the LORD searcheth all hearts, and understandeth all the imaginations of the thoughts: if thou seek him, he will be found of thee; but if thou forsake him, he will cast thee off for ever.
1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.
Nehemiah 9:6 Thou, even thou, art LORD alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth, and all things that are therein, the seas, and all that is therein, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.
Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Psalm 24:10Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.
1 Corinthians 2:8Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Psalm 66:16 Come and hear, all ye that fear God, and I will declare what he hath done for my soul.
Luke 8:39Return to thine own house, and shew how great things God hath done unto thee. And he went his way, and published throughout the whole city how great things Jesus had done unto him.
Psalm 62:12Also unto thee, O Lord, belongeth mercy: for thou renderest to every man according to his work.

Matthew 16:27For the Son of Man is going to come with his angels in the glory of his Father, and then he will repay each person according to what he has done

Psalm 119:89Your word, O Yahweh, is eternal; it stands firm in the heavens

Mark 13:31Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away

Psalms 78:35

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I see. What you are saying is that in the old testament God said "X" or was atributed "Y" atribute and in the new testament Jesus said "X" or was atributed "Y" atribute, so, therefore they must be the same??

Of course, I dispute that.  It's like saying that because you said "Lunch is Ready" and I said "Lunch is ready" - that you and I are the same person. It's like saying because you have brown hair, and I have brown hair, we are the same person. Please don't think I am being flippant here, but can you see what I mean.

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You are too far gone.The JW's have you.They BOTH claim the EXACT same thing.So either they are the same person or they are liars or at least one of them is a liar.Which one do you say is a liar?You cannot have it both ways.Is YHWH the LIGHT OF THE WORLD or is JESUS the Light of the world?

[2106greencat]

I have always been rather fond of the Stephen King novels myself.

[2106greencat]

ooooops

Sorry, thought we were comparing authors of fiction!

my bad........

[polksaladallie]

Do bona fide Christians use such language?

[2106greencat]

Nah, they just copy and paste usually, which is why they get so upset when they can't really explain their own beliefs

[myoclon1cjerk]

The sun is the light of the world.Simple science.