Yothu Yindi Dies

[freddie*rooster]

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[bright.ton42]

you have the wrong person bright

Oh dear, only just seen this.  Sorry for the mistake.  

[happyroo_bunji]

Oh dear, only just seen this.  Sorry for the mistake.  

Thats okay, it was a bit confusing in this thread for a little while

Lobs thanks for comming in and answering the naming question

[rabbitearbandicoot]

Lobs, re the comment Disrespectful to "show picture's of a recently deceased" person.

Lobs wrote: "This is one of our traditional practices that is a fundamental part of our traditional lore and law, one that demands the ultimate respect when mourning the loss of loved ones."

I am asking this seriously because I don't know so please don't take offence.

To be included as 'a fundamental part of traditional lore' I assume it means part of the original culture??? From way back before the 'whites' came?

What sort of images of the deceased person would the 'traditional law' be referring to?

Surely, since photography is a fairly late invention in terms of Aboriginal History and Tradition, how could it be part of that tradition?

[lobs211]

Hi Rabbit,

No offence at all LOL there is no offence there 🙂

I was quoting that first post about traditional lore

Yes it means from way back LOL way way back!

Its something that has adapted to the world now, back then it meant as in paintings, really rock paintings, once someone in a rock painting passed, that area was either sealed off or not gone to anymore.

Now that concept has moved to photos or in movies etc

You probly heard of sacred ground that black fellas don't go near? Not ceremonial ground, sacred ground that's closed off? Some of this has paintings of people who are passed, these ppl tho were usually Royalty or respected elders.

Im not explaining it real well LOL but do u get me? This is the same concept used now>

Meep, the warning in movies is because people can get really upset/ shaken if they see the face of a dead person. Its not 'normal' traditionally to see the face of a dead person unless they are unable to go to the Dreamtime cos something is holding them back.

So cos its not 'normal' to see a dead person, if u see one on a screen it can be terrifying to ppl who belive it means the person cant fly home (dreamtime)

Lets be honest black fellas are mostly scaredy cats LOL strongly believe in spirits and evil spirits, a lot of this is about not tempting an evil spirit to be with you

Hope I makin sense LOL

Cheers

[channys_mum]

It is sad, he was a great man.

As to respect.

Not everyone knows or understands indigenous law, and personally I don't believe that anyone would have anything but repect for this man.

People pay their respects in their own way and one would think that would be understood and not seen as a disrespectful act.

RIP

[rabbitearbandicoot]

Thanks Lobs.

It sort of limits Aboriginals becoming anything that is likely to be photographed doesn't it?

I mean film actors (David Gulpilil) springs to mind - what's going to happen with all his films when he dies? And there must be heaps that have been filmed one way or another - not the least football players - all sports players?? What happens then?

Was it David that appeared in the Crocodile Dundee series? "I hate the bush! " - lol

[lobs211]

LOL I knew David once upon a time :-x

It doesn't mean his movies cant be shown, it means they will have a warning that's all 🙂

The easiest way to explain is: You should never see a dead persons face UNLESS that person cant go to the Dreamtime (Ie a spirit who is lost may "haunt" (white fella word) you)

So it can be very upsetting to see a passed persons face on TV - get it? LOL

Yes he was in Crocodile Dundee- with a watch on I believe 🙂

[**meep**]

Thanks Lobs. Makes sense 🙂