on 17-11-2014 09:52 AM
think this deserves it's own thread
http://theaimn.com/standing-coal-abbott-newman-give-investment-advice/
Standing up for coal – Abbott and Newman give investment advice
Tony Abbott has told a G20 leaders’ discussion on energy he was “standing up for coal” as the Queensland government prepares to unveil new infrastructure spending to help the development of Australia’s largest coal mine.
Abbott, who recently said coal was “good for humanity”, also endorsed the mine, proposed by the Indian company Adani, to the meeting.
The Australian government has given all environmental and regulatory clearances for the $7.5 billion coal mining, rail and port project, said Gautam Adani, chairman, Adani Group, in an interview to The Indian Express.
And Campbell Newman is happy to put your money where his mouth is.
“We are prepared to invest in core, common-user infrastructure,” Mr Newman said. “The role of government is to make targeted investments to get something going and exit in a few years’ time.”
Despite poor market conditions, high costs and the massive outpouring of concern over the environmental impacts of their projects, Indian companies GVK and Adani remain hell-bent on opening up the Galilee Basin in Queensland. The smallest mine is as large as Australia’s biggest operating coal mine and the largest, twice the size. All of the proposals in the Galilee Basin would produce enough coal to chew up 7% of the world’s remaining carbon budget, drastically reducing our chances of keeping a lid on global warming.
Adani and fellow Indian company GVK are pushing their projects and Adani wants to start construction early next year, but the key problem is access to funds.
Few banks are willing to lend when coal prices are so low and the industry is facing issues with climate change.
17-11-2014 09:56 AM - edited 17-11-2014 09:57 AM
Excellent
and so he should
on 17-11-2014 09:58 AM
http://theaimn.com/standing-coal-abbott-newman-give-investment-advice/
There are also issues with both companies.
Adani Mining Pty Ltd borrowed $516 million from another subsidiary of the Adani Group, Adani Minerals, at an interest rate of 4.25%. Adani Enterprises, the parent group, borrowed from the banks 2 per cent more cheaply that it charges Adani Mining the subsidiary in Australia for internal loans.
Why would these loans be priced so far above commercial rates? Potentially they could rack up losses in Australia and rip out equivalent profits to India. Some $10 million a year thereby transferred – 2 per cent on $516 million – tax free to the subcontinent.
Rupert would be proud.
Adani Mining P/L had no revenue and booked a pre-tax loss of $112 million in 2013-14. It spent $75 million on exploration and evaluation of the mining area, which was capitalised, along with $41 million of interest, into the balance sheet rather than expensed against the profit and loss.
Adani Mining’s red ink of $112 million mostly relates to currency losses. All loans are in US dollars with no hedging, giving rise to a loss every time the Australian dollar declines
The total investment so far by the Adani group in Adani Mining is now $984 million and shareholder equity is negative to the tune of $45 million which reflects net borrowings of $1.015 billion in this Australian subsidiary alone.
So we have a company with $1 billion in debt, negative shareholders funds, zero revenue and high cash burn with $15 billion still to spend, and the parent company, Adani Enterprises, has debts of $US12 billion.
Tim Buckley, director at the Institute of Energy Economics and Financial Analysis, puts it bluntly: “This project is not commercially viable”. Apart from the financial deficiencies of the main participants, he says thermal coal is in structural rather than cyclical decline.
In another red flag, Linc Energy accepted $155 million from Adani a couple of months ago for its option in the project. It is worth asking why Linc boss Peter Bond would sell a royalty of $2 billion over 20 years – perhaps worth $600 million today – for just $155 million.
And then there’s GVK.
Despite claiming to be a “leading global infrastructure owner, manager and operator” GVKPIL has no experience operating any business outside of India. It has never successfully built and operated a coal mine – in India or otherwise. GVKPIL has not operated any business in Australia, let alone a US$10bn greenfield project in the face of massive environmental, operational, logistical and financial challenges.
GVKPIL is currently committed to 16 greenfield infrastructure projects across six different asset classes. Many are behind schedule and / or over budget.
With a market equity capitalisation of only US$243m, GVKPIL is carrying on-balance sheet net debt of US$2.8bn. It’s share price is at an all time low and has underperformed the Indian index by 80% since 2010.
Building Australia’s largest black thermal coal mine in the untapped Galilee Basin would challenge experienced operators, but the combination of an inexperienced developer, slack demand globally for thermal coal and a deteriorating cost of production scenario in Australia moves the project beyond speculative.
on 17-11-2014 10:09 AM
@nero_wulf wrote:Excellent
and so he should
I'm genuinely interested to know why you would agree with Tony Abbott's stance on coal when the rest of the world is moving away from it. Why do you think it's such a good idea?
on 17-11-2014 10:22 AM
When he starts talking about villages without power I can't see how coal is going to be their saviour. How the heck are they supposed to pay power bills if they have so little money? Solar power would be a much more affordable alternative.
on 17-11-2014 10:30 AM
the abbott is going to give up half of his pay and perks and assorted tax dodges to start a personal fund to alleviate poverty in India, his employer murdoch and his friends gina and andrew forrest will also be digging deep to add to the fund - of course all LNP members and fellow travellers will be following their lead - so committed is the abbott to supplying energy to the masses in India.....
on 17-11-2014 10:57 AM
Sensing an opening, the PM reminded Jones that he had defended coal to G20 leaders.
"And perhaps it wasn't the most popular point I made…"
SMH
on 17-11-2014 11:27 AM
strange
The prime minister has stopped by 2GB this morning to wrap up the G20 weekend and point triumphantly forward (I’ve just caught the tail end of this conversation, so sadly I’ve missed the advertorial for digestion aids that normally sets up a prime ministerial interview) –Alan Jones seems in a terrible tizz about the free trade deal with China.
Alan’s voice has climbed several octaves.
Jones:
It’s going to be signed before we see it!
(Well, yes, Alan. That’s how things tends to go: secret until public. Fortunately the government has ‘helped’ by leaking much of the bits and pieces.) The prime minister sounds like you sound when you’ve clenched your jaw in order to prevent unseemly words escaping from your lips.
It’s combat everywhere, actually. The environment minister Greg Hunt is on ABC Radio National Breakfast dressing down host Fran Kelly for climate change related thought crimes. Very touchy.
Jones:
Q: Doesn’t economic growth start at home?
Abbott:
Well, it does Alan.
(After a suitable interval.)
Abbott:
I can’t work miracles Alan.
Jones wants to know why a wind turbine manufacturer from Qatar gets a subsidy and the working stiff doesn’t get a subsidy. He wants to know why there isn’t more coal worship. The prime minister points out he has been engaged in coal worship. Yes, but why isn’t that taking off, Alan wonders. The left and the Abbott haters, that’s why. And that meaningless climate agreement Barack Obama signed with President Xi. That’s why. The eternal why.
Alan never lets incoherence blunt his natural vehemence. Jones tells the prime minister global warming is a hoax and wind turbines are a fake.
Alan Jones to Tony Abbott: you don't pass the pub test
Alan is evidently unhappy that we spent a whole lot of money on a summit in Brisbane that achieved nothing.
The prime minister is unhappy that he chose Jones for this morning’s fireside chat because this interview is not going to plan and we are only five minutes in.
Jones declares that Abbott – a person he’s known for thousands of years – does not pass the pub test.
Neither does anything that comes out of his mouth.
Jones:
People listening to you, because my real concern here is a lot of this does not pass the pub test. And I suppose as someone who has known you for thousands of years – you don’t pass the pub test on some of these things too.
(After a suitable interval.)
I’ll come back to specific FTA issues, but first, back to Alan. I’ve only just hit the opening editorial set up from Jones, but it’s clear already this one’s a keeper. This will be full frontal populism.
Jones suggests that the G20 meeting in Brisbane is the only time in history where a coherent agenda has been presented. Only time in history, because let’s face it, the rest of the world is completely incompetent.
Jones:
France – no leadership at all.
Hopeless.