can atheism work without God and what would that society be like?

[best.buys]

without a moral lawgiver [God] in a true atheistic society with all the evolutionary doctrine acceptable. if then everybody's view/point/understanding is then relative

would rape be legal?

killing off those who are a burden to society, the handicapped, blind, down syndrome be encouraged?

what about the elderly?

infanticide?

and would gays be worse off since they don't contribute to mans upward evolutionary struggle?

to who's standard would society look to?

since so many posters on here don't like God so much have you truly considered what would happen?

this one's for you bob or at least in reverse to your normal topics.

[newstart2380]

You just have to go to the jungles of Africa ..were they have not being brain washed.. and see them make trees there god.. or India were cows are holy.. I dont believe there is a God.. Its man made to control the people.. You know what i meem..if you do that you wont go to heaven.. were is heaven ?..

Heaven is sitting on a secluded beach in the Maldives surrounded by white sand and crystal blue water with a pinna colada in one hand and a Stephen King novel in the other . AAAHH

[newstart2380]

what lesson newstart, vague assumptions, grandiose claims. ever heard of Stalin the worlds greatest mass murderer or what about Mao both atheists.

does it make atheist's feel better to have this mantra "religion kills more" go and invest in a history book.

No I don't feel better or worse, I just don't believe in any god. You must admit most wars and brutalities are caused over differences in religious beliefs and faiths by radical extremists.

Muslims apparently believe theirs is the only religion and Allah is their god. Christians, Catholics, Buddhists and others faiths believe there's is the only god and so on.

I was not even thinking about those hideous dictators and most of them started wars with the aim of eradicating or conquering races or creating a master race and little to do with religion, they were just plain insane.

I respect you views and opinions so I ask that you respect mine in return, it does not matter that we don't agree because nothing you say will ever convince me there is a god.

[monman12]

GO:".....what lesson newstart, vague assumptions, grandiose claims. ever heard of Stalin the worlds greatest mass murderer ." " go and invest in a history book"

GO, in a debate if you make a definitive statement it is advisable to ensure that it is correct, otherwise your future utterances will be viewed  with a degree of cynicism/disbelief!

MAO ZEDONG, China’s  ‘Great Helmsman’ (Chairman Mao) was actually the greatest mass murderer in history.
Perhaps you could borrow NS's history book!

[best.buys]

no way newstart you keep making the statements that most wars are religious that is an out and out untruth. most wars are land grabs or race hatred.

best you can come up with is stalin was the second worst mass murderer rather than the first?

[monman12]

GO: "best you can come up with is stalin was the second worst mass murderer rather than the first"

I do like to indicate "an out and out untruth", but would also point out  that  I wrote absolutely nothing about Stalin, so again I will comment:-

"GO, in a debate if you make a definitive statement it is advisable to ensure that it is correct, otherwise your future utterances will be viewed  with a degree of cynicism/disbelief!"

I must admit that I miss  TRBAG's  fire and brimstone "howlers", but authenticity was not his strong point either.

[newstart2380]

no way newstart you keep making the statements that most wars are religious that is an out and out untruth. most wars are land grabs or race hatred.

best you can come up with is stalin was the second worst mass murderer rather than the first?

So September 11 was planned because the high jackers wanted the land ? It was religious based atrocity by followers of Allah That killed or maimed thousands of innocent people.

Israel , Pakistan ongoing war is all about religion and about  claiming the garza strip.

so u obviously r a bit miffed that I don't agree with your views ? What happened to turning the other cheek ? If u r a true religious person u would.

[best.buys]

not a religious bone in my body newstart. and I do agree with most of your last statement, unfortunalty we are in a very small minority who acknowledge we are at war with a section of the followers of islam. ww1, ww2, korea, Vietnam not much to do with religion.

turning the other cheek? how about go into all the world and teach............. I may be wrong in some of my posts [as like you I am not perfect] but I don't make untrue claims, or vague statements.

I am still trying to get some answers to the actual topic instead of God did this or God does that or Christians do this or Christians do that.

actually it would be really, really nice if those who went to Church talked about God as much as the atheists did. :^O

[monman12]

"if those who went to Church talked about God as much as the atheists did" ".....I may be wrong in some of my posts...."

Agree with the latter, yet again.

GO, I do not talk very much about any believed deity, or in TRBAG's case his deity's  operating manual,  other than to say you believe in one  and I believe you do, but apart from that I wonder why the need to "preach" here, lest you be accused of talking  about God as much as the atheists (allegedly) do.

[monman12]

GO: "I may be wrong in some of my posts [as like you I am not perfect] but I don't make untrue claims,"

I overlooked that, so: chuckle!

[best.buys]

why do you feel the need to mock? if you don't wan't to address the topic, move on. its called freedom, so I can "preach" as you call it anywhere I want, can't I?. not my fault that atheists have not evolved enough to move on to a topic they can answer.