covid-19 test

[davidc4430]

woke to symptoms of a cold so i'm off for a covid-19 test

this will be fun, not.

[ambercat16]

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@Anonymous wrote:

I am wondering at which point the virus will be allowed to run it's course

in the general community.
This would involve, of course, isolating the vulnerable.

The alternative is continuing economically destructive lockdowns.

The virus will never disappear any more than colds and flus have.

An effective vaccine is being hampered by corporate greed which

prevents sharing of research.

The only way to avoid economic destruction is the develop a 'fast' and

accurate test. Something in the order of minutes with a follow up swab

to confirm if a postive result.

Australia's version is 12 months away in which case a great many people

will be out working for food.

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Questions........

How do you identify the vulnerable? Just anyone over a certain age? Anyone with a known pre-existing condition? What about the unlucky ones who seem to get very sick for no perceptable reason except frequent exposure like medical staff? 

Once identified, where do you put them? Lock them in  their own homes? What about those who share homes with people who work in the community? What about the homeless? 

And another thing.....why would you have a follow up swab for a test showing a positive result and not for a test shopwing a negative result - just curious

[ecar3483]

I tried knotting the elastics at the side of the mask, as per the video. but then the elastic tore free from the mask when I tried to put it on...

I blame my ruggedly handsome masculine features... they're just too much for one simple mask to contain, ha ha...

🙂

[ecar3483]

The unknown, the as yet unforeseen longer term effects of this virus worry me.

The infection rate, in spite of those people who blithely ignore the warnings, and go on to spread it like margarine on warm toast, will eventually drop to near enough to zero, but people will still have been affected...

It's not only physical debilitation, or the psychological strain of this crisis that is yet to fully manifest, to be felt...

It's not only people that will be left struggling for breath, the economy suffers, too...

So tell me, is it worth your going for a drive just because you're bored?

You might think that common sense precautions and social distancing guidelines don't apply to you, but what will your grand kids think of the World you left for them?

🙂

[imastawka]

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@ecar3483 wrote:

I tried knotting the elastics at the side of the mask, as per the video. but then the elastic tore free from the mask when I tried to put it on...

I blame my ruggedly handsome masculine features... they're just too much for one simple mask to contain, ha ha...

🙂

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Maybe it's just the size of men's fingers that are the problem?

Hubby can't get a knot in his mask elastic, I have to tie it for him.

[domino-710]

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@ecar3483 wrote:

The unknown, the as yet unforeseen longer term effects of this virus worry me.

The infection rate, in spite of those people who blithely ignore the warnings, and go on to spread it like margarine on warm toast, will eventually drop to near enough to zero, but people will still have been affected...

It's not only physical debilitation, or the psychological strain of this crisis that is yet to fully manifest, to be felt...

It's not only people that will be left struggling for breath, the economy suffers, too...

So tell me, is it worth your going for a drive just because you're bored?

You might think that common sense precautions and social distancing guidelines don't apply to you, but what will your grand kids think of the World you left for them?

🙂

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The question could be asked - this common sense you speak of - has it been passed on to the kids - let alone the grandkids.

[Anonymous]

In the absence of a reliable rapid test we will
face further lock downs and the economic consequences.
The superannuation schemes are already under threat.

It's like a run on banks because the schemes rely on

incoming contributions to make payouts possible.
The drying up of income ( jobs disappearing ) and the early
withdrawals out of ( in the main ) necessity could cause some
super funds to simply collapse. Remember the GFC ?
We just don't have enough public compliance with safety measures
because most ( especially the bullet proof young or just plain ijits ) regard
not wearing a mask as their constitutional right.
I must admit that all attempts at establishing a 'herd immunity' have
failed miserably to date but some form of drastic action needs to take place.

So far Australia has been doing well but that's only because we have a

generally spread out population.

In the absence of a reliable 'rapid' test we won't fair well at all.
Swab testing an asymptomatic carrier would see them on the loose for

2 or 3 days while awaiting the results.
There are rapid tests being trialed that will only cost around $5.00 compared
to current swabs at around $200.00 a pop.
I wonder if pathology lab shares have skyrocketed.

[Anonymous]

YES !!
Cheap, accurate and in seconds test is on the near horizon.

False positives but no false negatives so far..

https://www.timesofisrael.com/just-breathe-israeli-made-nano-covid-breath-test-spots-every-carrier-i...

[rogevibe]

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@ecar3483 wrote:

The unknown, the as yet unforeseen longer term effects of this virus worry me.

The infection rate, in spite of those people who blithely ignore the warnings, and go on to spread it like margarine on warm toast, will eventually drop to near enough to zero, but people will still have been affected...

It's not only physical debilitation, or the psychological strain of this crisis that is yet to fully manifest, to be felt...

It's not only people that will be left struggling for breath, the economy suffers, too...

So tell me, is it worth your going for a drive just because you're bored?

You might think that common sense precautions and social distancing guidelines don't apply to you, but what will your grand kids think of the World you left for them?

🙂

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Not much discussion about the survivors .....

[rogevibe]

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@Anonymous wrote:

In the absence of a reliable rapid test we will
face further lock downs and the economic consequences.
The superannuation schemes are already under threat.

It's like a run on banks because the schemes rely on

incoming contributions to make payouts possible.
The drying up of income ( jobs disappearing ) and the early
withdrawals out of ( in the main ) necessity could cause some
super funds to simply collapse. Remember the GFC ?
We just don't have enough public compliance with safety measures
because most ( especially the bullet proof young or just plain ijits ) regard
not wearing a mask as their constitutional right.
I must admit that all attempts at establishing a 'herd immunity' have
failed miserably to date but some form of drastic action needs to take place.

So far Australia has been doing well but that's only because we have a

generally spread out population.

In the absence of a reliable 'rapid' test we won't fair well at all.
Swab testing an asymptomatic carrier would see them on the loose for

2 or 3 days while awaiting the results.
There are rapid tests being trialed that will only cost around $5.00 compared
to current swabs at around $200.00 a pop.
I wonder if pathology lab shares have skyrocketed.

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The Americans have developed a reliable 2 hour for results @ US$10 quick test which is just a mouth swab not a nasal plunger

https://www.livescience.com/covid-19-saliva-test-yale.html

If you are located locally you read about this first here ....

[davewil1964]

Certainly says a lot about the US health system.