death at sea

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The live export industry is in crisis amid revelations thousands of sheep from farms in WA and the eastern States died in extreme heat during a horror voyage to the Middle East on a ship which was back in Fremantle loading animals in 40C conditions last weekend.

http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/business/wa/a/20787632/mass-sheep-death-on-horror-voyage/

[debra9275]

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Maybe we could have Islamic butchers in business here in Australia and then export the meat deep frozen?

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I agree with you Darki. did you know that the Indonesians buy frozen meat from NZ. I can't see why it shouldn't be the same here

although some will say that Indonesians don't have adequate refridgeration.

I would rather buy them refridgeration than the current alternative

[*crikey*mate*]

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@debra9275 wrote:

Research into Australian live export

In 2009, the (WSPA) live export campaign commissioned economic think tank ACIL Tasman to undertake economic research into the live export trade. This research found that there are potential value adding opportunities being lost in Australia due to trade distortions in the live export trade. The report analysed the economics and policy settings of the live sheep export trade from Western Australia and demonstrated that a sheep processed domestically is worth 20% more to the Australian economy than one exported live. IF there is enough demand in Australia to consume the quantities needed for sustainability

In October 2012, WSPA published a further piece of research into the live export trade. This research found that if a cattle processing facility is built in the Northern Territory or North-Western Australia, in conjunction with live export, there would potentially be an increase of 245% or more in gross earnings for Australian cattle producers, more than 1,300 jobs for unemployed Australians and gross regional product growth of $204 million per annum. I guess they need people who are prepared to operate at those locations, eh? But have they taken into considerations the costs for raising the livestockm in these extreme locations? Considering factors such as feed, weather, temperature?

In August 2011, two bills were presented tothe Australin Parliament calling for an end to live exports on animal welfare grounds, by Independent Senator Nick Xenopon  and the Australian Greens Party. Both bills were rejected by the House of Representatives. Why?

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[darksideofthemoon]

It beats me debra 

[debra9275]

for goodnes sake Crikey jobs are jobs and as proven by the mining industry, people will go where the jobs are.

opening abboitoirs here would create more jobs for Australians or muslim Australians

[*crikey*mate*]

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@debra9275 wrote:

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Maybe we could have Islamic butchers in business here in Australia and then export the meat deep frozen?

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I agree with you Darki. did you know that the Indonesians buy frozen meat from NZ. I can't see why it shouldn't be the same here

although some will say that Indonesians don't have adequate refridgeration.

I would rather buy them refridgeration than the current alternative

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did you know, that for some strange reason, so do we?

(I think it's cos it is cheaper for us to import it than to produce our own in some circumstances)

[debra9275]

did you know, that for some strange reason, so do we?

(I think it's cos it is cheaper for us to import it than to produce our own in some circumstances)

i think it's more likely because NZ do not export live animals and that we are not a muslim country

[punch*drunk]

Australians cant afford to eat lamb, thats why there's not enough demand here. Its too expensive.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@debra9275 wrote:

for goodnes sake Crikey jobs are jobs and as proven by the mining industry, people will go where the jobs are.

opening abboitoirs here would create more jobs for Australians or muslim Australians

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whoa...

jobs are jobs, yes.

But you need the people with the money to be prepared to open and ioperate the businesses.

and I daresay that the conditions in the locations suggested are cost prohibitive and not conducive to the sustainability of the sector.

They've got to feed the livestock. So they either grow it or transport it - how much money do you think this adds to the costs? This impedes the viability.

What if people won't operate the abbotoirs?

It's not a case of just "build an abbotoir", there has to be a demand for the product and a supply.

If the farmers don't send their livestock to the slaughterhouse, how does a slaughterhouse stay in business?

[*crikey*mate*]

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@debra9275 wrote:

did you know, that for some strange reason, so do we?

(I think it's cos it is cheaper for us to import it than to produce our own in some circumstances)

i think it's more likely because NZ do not export live animals and that we are not a muslim country

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then you think wrong.

[debra9275]

I  agree Punch, I have never understood that, when here we are exporting so many sheep overseas