executions go ahead.

[bluecat*dancing]

Sad news to wake up to.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-29/both-sides-of-politics-unite-to-condemn-bali-nine-executions/6...

[bluecat*dancing]

I find that rather insulting.

[the_great_she_elephant]

Why? Do we not owe as much to victims of domestic violence as to executed drug smugglers. Her name was Linda Locke, her partner, who has been charged with her murder is on a methodone programme - who knows he may even have been a customer of a drug dealer being supplied by the bali nine -  her death is an unspeakable outrage, yet apart from a brief mention in todays news and probably a few more when the case comes to trial, nobody but her family will ever remember she even existed. 

[j*oono]

And also quite pointless.

[*pepe]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

Meanwhile, back in Australia, the 34th woman to die from violence in this country died in Westmead Hospital overnight.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/linda-locke-dies-in-hospital-after-assault-in-quakers-hill-home-20150429-1...

Where are theoutraged  mourners lighting candles and holding  vigils for her?

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don't just assume nobody cares about her being killed because they didn't mention her in this thread which is about the executions.

[kilroy_is_here]

If we going of topic then how about this group
http://theabf.com.au/21fathers/

[the_great_she_elephant]

I can't speak for other people, I don't mean to offend anyone,  nor do I expect or demand that anyone else should share my opinion. I can only speak of my own personal feelings, and what I am feeling right now, after reading everything that has been written in the papers over the last few days and what I have seen on the news tonight is that we have all been being caught up in the same extraordinay excess of emotion that swept the country after Princess Diana died.  

I am not callous, I have already made my feelings clear on the subject of the death penalty and the horrendous way Chan and Sukamaran were treated, I felt desperately sorry for them and my heart aches for their families.  But with the best will in the world I cannot see them as either heroes or martyrs and this outpouring of grief feels to me like some weird kind of mass hysteria.

[*pepe]

i haven't seen any outpouring of grief for them - i have seen despair at the futility at the taking of lives that could have been put to good use and i have seen anger at the barbaric way these lives were ended and i have seen sympathy and compassion for the families eft behind, but pretty much every person has said they put themselves in this position by the choices they made.

I see many people voicing their varied opinions but certainly no hysteria.

[the_great_she_elephant]

I wasn't thinking so much of what has been said here, but all the stuff that's being reported in the media - the candlelight vigils,people weeping and comforting each other in public, the calls for a boycotts and  demandsfor the withdrawal of aid to Indonesia.

It ddn't happen when Barlow and Chambers were exectuted in Malaysia in 1986, and who remembers Van Tuong Nguyen - Hanged on December 2, 2005 for heroin trafficking (Singapore) or Michael McAuliffe - Hanged on June 19, 1993 for heroin trafficking (Malaysia) What is so compellingly different about this case.

[gleee58]

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@the_great_she_elephant wrote:

I wasn't thinking so much of what has been said here, but all the stuff that's being reported in the media - the candlelight vigils,people weeping and comforting each other in public, the calls for a boycotts and  demandsfor the withdrawal of aid to Indonesia.

It ddn't happen when Barlow and Chambers were exectuted in Malaysia in 1986, and who remembers Van Tuong Nguyen - Hanged on December 2, 2005 for heroin trafficking (Singapore) or Michael McAuliffe - Hanged on June 19, 1993 for heroin trafficking (Malaysia) What is so compellingly different about this case.

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It could be because it has dragged on for so long and because there has been quite a lot of interest generated in their progress and we've been introduced to their families and those who care for them. Then there's the realization that it could be anyone of our children who get caught up in drugs or have done.  10 years is a mighty long time to keep them in jail thinking they won't be executed only to spring it on them at the whim of a new PM who feels the need to exert his rigidity. 

[poddster]

it could be seen this way too, they got to suck oxigen for ten more years than they should have.