independent running in QLD election filmed slapping his son

[wilk1149]

But even worse this piece of **bleep**e poured water over his little baby. Proof that not every one should have the right to have children

[azureline**]

Many parents manage to raise well behaved children without smacking them.

[polksaladallie]

You can set boundaries without abuse.

It is against the law to hit an adult, it is against the law to hit an animal.  Why is it OK to hit a child?  It is not in many countries.  Australians should be ashamed that we still allow it.

[k0llectable5]

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@polksaladallie wrote:

You can set boundaries without abuse.

It is against the law to hit an adult, it is against the law to hit an animal.  Why is it OK to hit a child?  It is not in many countries.  Australians should be ashamed that we still allow it.

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Point taken. But I do think you are confusing discipline with abuse (not in regards to this video) but in general. So I'll ask you a couple of unrelated questions (if you dont mind). I value your opinion here Polks 🙂 so out of curiosity what whould you say appropriate discipline would be for a toddler, who for example; keeps taking his nappy off and smearing the contents all over the walls, or one who keeps terrorising the family cat everytime he has an oppertunity or in all attempts to stop him from doing something thats either dangerous or nasty he just keeps on trying to do it? Do you think (seeing as all forms of communication and explaining has failed) is it abuse to smack the child on the hand as a form of discipline/punishment for those types of negative behaviours? 

If you disagree with smacking in the instances I mentioned, I'd be interested to hear what you think an appropriate form of discipline would be.

[vicr3000]

Second

Can I add another one that I would like to hear Polks's view on ?

After all forms of communication and explaining has failed, they continue to run out onto the road,

even though they have been told and explained to many times.

At what point and what action is taken ?

[lurker172602]

Let's not get too distracted here.  Everyone has agreed that the actions in this case are totally unacceptable.  Let's not let him get away with it because of philosophical differences about "discipline"

[vicr3000]

I don't think we are being distracted.

We have said our piece, all tend to agree, wider discussion on discipline continuing.

I would love to know his thought process, or lack of re pouring water over the child

and what he expected that action to achieve.

[cherry*135]

That is appalling. I am glad someone published that video.

Imagine growing up from a very young age and having your parent pour water on you or slap you on the head. I doubt whether that abuse was an isolated incident.

I blame the parents. Parents who want to sit in a cafe and drink coffee and eat should understand with children of that YOUNG age the children aren't going to just sit still and be quiet and wait till time to leave. Active kids that young get bored easily. If mother was still eating, father could have taken the restless kids outside for a bit.

[cherry*135]

If you have small children that are naturally very active and rambunctious don't take them to cafes and expect them to behave like adults!

[polksaladallie]

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@secondhand-wonderland wrote:

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@polksaladallie wrote:

You can set boundaries without abuse.

It is against the law to hit an adult, it is against the law to hit an animal.  Why is it OK to hit a child?  It is not in many countries.  Australians should be ashamed that we still allow it.

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Point taken. But I do think you are confusing discipline with abuse (not in regards to this video) but in general. So I'll ask you a couple of unrelated questions (if you dont mind). I value your opinion here Polks 🙂 so out of curiosity what whould you say appropriate discipline would be for a toddler, who for example; keeps taking his nappy off and smearing the contents all over the walls, or one who keeps terrorising the family cat everytime he has an oppertunity or in all attempts to stop him from doing something thats either dangerous or nasty he just keeps on trying to do it? Do you think (seeing as all forms of communication and explaining has failed) is it abuse to smack the child on the hand as a form of discipline/punishment for those types of negative behaviours? 

If you disagree with smacking in the instances I mentioned, I'd be interested to hear what you think an appropriate form of discipline would be.

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I had a son who used to paint his cot with poo before his parents were awake.  He grew up to be an artist and a musician.

What babies put in and put out is all that they can control.  It is perfectly natural for him/her to play with poo.  He doesn't know whether it is right or wrong.  And it is not wrong, it just is.  Don't leave a dirty nappy on.  Sounds like he is very ready for the potty.  In past times, our babies used to be potty trained by 18 months or soon after.  Keeping a clean nappy on always is the first step towards potty training.  It is comfortable.

A baby or toddler doesn't know what is dangerous or what is nasty.  Anything dangerous or nasty needs to be kept separate from any child of any age.

The golden rule is, ignore the negative behaviours, and reward the positive behaviours.  All children ever want to do is to please the parent.  Give them lots of cuddles and attention when you catch them being "good", and they will comtinue that behaviour.  If the only attention they  get is when they are "naughty", that is what they will continue with.

There is no need to hit.  You can use a grumpy voice, a grumpy face, and distraction, for babies and toddlers.

What does a small child think when the person who professes to love them is doing something to hurt them?   Confusion and damage is what happens.

[vicr3000]

"Give them lots of cuddles and attention when you catch them being "good", and they will comtinue that behaviour.

If the only attention they  get is when they are "naughty", that is what they will continue with."

Spot on.