"Religious people are merely Victims. "

[the_bob_delusion]

We need more understanding. Religious people are merely victims of brain-washing and indoctrination. Challenge the idea/doctrine not the people. 

Discuss. 

[lionofjudah60]

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@lionofjudah60 wrote:

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@*stuff*books* wrote:

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@lionofjudah60 wrote:

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As for eternal life you have not got a clue what you are speaking of.Because you do not understand God nor know Him you think He is unable to resurrect and give eternal life.

SOON you will all know what He is capable of.

I think "he's"had enough time to show that and that rhetoric has been going on since the "beginning" of religion.

But because people are so full of pride and can never be told anything they always have to have the last say and tell everyone how they know more and that God is not real.

But that sounds like you,(your pride wont allow you to see anything but you own views,(whether they are right or wrong).

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Sorry,but I don't want nothing to do with religion as it has and will always cause misery in this world.

Deaths in the name of religion has always been wrong but millions have being killed in it's name,(and it's still

happening).

What would the world be like without religion?

It would be a safe place to be and live.

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To answer your first question. or statement I think "he's"had enough time to show that and that rhetoric has been going on since the "beginning" of religion.

The time has ALWAYS been the time appointed.It could not have been sooner than HE planned.The dates are in the Bible.Encoded but there.And what is happening in the world is proof that the time is almost here.You just refuse to look.

Secondly you stated,But that sounds like you,(your pride wont allow you to see anything but you own views,(whether they are right or wrong).

I PROVED GOOD FRIDAY CANNOT BE CORRECT! The MATH proves it.I proved the rest using nothing but the Bible.Instead of telling me I am wrong SHOW me where I am wrong as I SHOWED you that the traditional teachings are wrong.

SHOW me how it could be a FRIDAY!SHOW me how the BIRTH could have been 4bc or 0.SHOW me how Malachi spoke of John the Baptist.SHOW me where the Bible speaks of a person called THE ANTICHRIST!

I SHOWED THEY ARE WRONG!Refute it.

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I forgot to say this.You stated

"Deaths in the name of religion has always been wrong but millions have being killed in it's name,(and it's still

happening)."

This is nonsense.This is oft stated but nonsense.Tell me where the millions of deaths have been.The majority is atheists doing this.The majority of wars have always been non religious.Now yes it is Islam.But in history the majority have not been religious wars.Quite the opposite.

[rabbitearbandicoot]

lionofjudah, you have mentioned several times about the Anti Christ? Can you tell me more.

[lionofjudah60]

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@rabbitearbandicoot wrote:

lionofjudah, you have mentioned several times about the Anti Christ? Can you tell me more.

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Not just now Rabbit as I have to go out.But when I come back I will prove that this business of THE ANTICHRIST and THE FALSE PROPHET is nonsense.

[*stuff*books*]

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@lionofjudah60 wrote:

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To answer your first question. or statement I think "he's"had enough time to show that and that rhetoric has been going on since the "beginning" of religion.

The time has ALWAYS been the time appointed.It could not have been sooner than HE planned.The dates are in the Bible.Encoded but there.And what is happening in the world is proof that the time is almost here.You just refuse to look.

Why look for something I have no interest in,(you're the expert and you can't convince any of the ones that believes in the

bible and that's where your rhetoric should be directed).

Secondly you stated,But that sounds like you,(your pride wont allow you to see anything but you own views,(whether they are right or wrong).

I PROVED GOOD FRIDAY CANNOT BE CORRECT! The MATH proves it.I proved the rest using nothing but the Bible.Instead of telling me I am wrong SHOW me where I am wrong as I SHOWED you that the traditional teachings are wrong.

SHOW me how it could be a FRIDAY!SHOW me how the BIRTH could have been 4bc or 0.SHOW me how Malachi spoke of John the Baptist.SHOW me where the Bible speaks of a person called THE ANTICHRIST!

I SHOWED THEY ARE WRONG!Refute it.

Why?

By stating these you are saying that their bible must be false as it's stating incorrect information,(is your bible the same as

theirs?)

If you think/know you are correct then you need to convince them,not us.

No wonder there is so many different forms of the same religion as they all have different views on what the bible means,(as

did the ones that translates it from the original langauge).

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I forgot to say this.You stated

"Deaths in the name of religion has always been wrong but millions have being killed in it's name,(and it's still

happening)."

This is nonsense.This is oft stated but nonsense.Tell me where the millions of deaths have been.The majority is atheists doing this.The majority of wars have always been non religious.Now yes it is Islam.But in history the majority have not been religious wars.Quite the opposite.

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I stated Deaths in the name of religion has always been wrong but millions have being killed in it's name,(and it's still

happening).

I'm not talking about the majority like Hitler,Pol Pot and others who where zealots that believed their own form of genocide.

So these millions of people didn't die?

http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/

Current "hot spots".

http://www.religioustolerance.org/curr_war.htm

[lionofjudah60]

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@*stuff*books* wrote:

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@lionofjudah60 wrote:

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To answer your first question. or statement I think "he's"had enough time to show that and that rhetoric has been going on since the "beginning" of religion.

The time has ALWAYS been the time appointed.It could not have been sooner than HE planned.The dates are in the Bible.Encoded but there.And what is happening in the world is proof that the time is almost here.You just refuse to look.

Why look for something I have no interest in,(you're the expert and you can't convince any of the ones that believes in the

bible and that's where your rhetoric should be directed).

Secondly you stated,But that sounds like you,(your pride wont allow you to see anything but you own views,(whether they are right or wrong).

I PROVED GOOD FRIDAY CANNOT BE CORRECT! The MATH proves it.I proved the rest using nothing but the Bible.Instead of telling me I am wrong SHOW me where I am wrong as I SHOWED you that the traditional teachings are wrong.

SHOW me how it could be a FRIDAY!SHOW me how the BIRTH could have been 4bc or 0.SHOW me how Malachi spoke of John the Baptist.SHOW me where the Bible speaks of a person called THE ANTICHRIST!

I SHOWED THEY ARE WRONG!Refute it.

Why?

By stating these you are saying that their bible must be false as it's stating incorrect information,(is your bible the same as

theirs?)

If you think/know you are correct then you need to convince them,not us.

No wonder there is so many different forms of the same religion as they all have different views on what the bible means,(as

did the ones that translates it from the original langauge).

---

I forgot to say this.You stated

"Deaths in the name of religion has always been wrong but millions have being killed in it's name,(and it's still

happening)."

This is nonsense.This is oft stated but nonsense.Tell me where the millions of deaths have been.The majority is atheists doing this.The majority of wars have always been non religious.Now yes it is Islam.But in history the majority have not been religious wars.Quite the opposite.

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I stated Deaths in the name of religion has always been wrong but millions have being killed in it's name,(and it's still

happening).

I'm not talking about the majority like Hitler,Pol Pot and others who where zealots that believed their own form of genocide.

So these millions of people didn't die?

http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/

Current "hot spots".

http://www.religioustolerance.org/curr_war.htm

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Their Bible is not wrong.Their interpretation and translation is wrong and provable.

I do not have to convince them if they dont want to listen and people like BOB need to be shown because he calls the Bible a lie.So I can show him that he does not know what he is talking about.If you are not interested then DO NOT READ!Dont read and then tell me I cannot post it.YOU do not pay my bills and therefore YOU do not have the right to tell me what to do.

As for deaths in the name of religion yiou said millions have been killed in the name of religion.MANY MANY MORE have been killed by atheists.You conveniently forget that.

[lionofjudah60]

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@*stuff*books* wrote:

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@lionofjudah60 wrote:

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To answer your first question. or statement I think "he's"had enough time to show that and that rhetoric has been going on since the "beginning" of religion.

The time has ALWAYS been the time appointed.It could not have been sooner than HE planned.The dates are in the Bible.Encoded but there.And what is happening in the world is proof that the time is almost here.You just refuse to look.

Why look for something I have no interest in,(you're the expert and you can't convince any of the ones that believes in the

bible and that's where your rhetoric should be directed).

Secondly you stated,But that sounds like you,(your pride wont allow you to see anything but you own views,(whether they are right or wrong).

I PROVED GOOD FRIDAY CANNOT BE CORRECT! The MATH proves it.I proved the rest using nothing but the Bible.Instead of telling me I am wrong SHOW me where I am wrong as I SHOWED you that the traditional teachings are wrong.

SHOW me how it could be a FRIDAY!SHOW me how the BIRTH could have been 4bc or 0.SHOW me how Malachi spoke of John the Baptist.SHOW me where the Bible speaks of a person called THE ANTICHRIST!

I SHOWED THEY ARE WRONG!Refute it.

Why?

By stating these you are saying that their bible must be false as it's stating incorrect information,(is your bible the same as

theirs?)

If you think/know you are correct then you need to convince them,not us.

No wonder there is so many different forms of the same religion as they all have different views on what the bible means,(as

did the ones that translates it from the original langauge).

---

I forgot to say this.You stated

"Deaths in the name of religion has always been wrong but millions have being killed in it's name,(and it's still

happening)."

This is nonsense.This is oft stated but nonsense.Tell me where the millions of deaths have been.The majority is atheists doing this.The majority of wars have always been non religious.Now yes it is Islam.But in history the majority have not been religious wars.Quite the opposite.

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I stated Deaths in the name of religion has always been wrong but millions have being killed in it's name,(and it's still

happening).

I'm not talking about the majority like Hitler,Pol Pot and others who where zealots that believed their own form of genocide.

So these millions of people didn't die?

http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/

Current "hot spots".

http://www.religioustolerance.org/curr_war.htm

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You stated you have NO INTEREST!Tell me what it would take to make you interested.Billions of fish dying does not do it and it is in the Bible.Current events do not do it and they are in the Bible.How bad does the world need to be before you admit you may be wrong and search for God?

[Anonymous]

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@*stuff*books* wrote:

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@lionofjudah60 wrote:

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As for eternal life you have not got a clue what you are speaking of.Because you do not understand God nor know Him you think He is unable to resurrect and give eternal life.

SOON you will all know what He is capable of.

I think "he's"had enough time to show that and that rhetoric has been going on since the "beginning" of religion.

But because people are so full of pride and can never be told anything they always have to have the last say and tell everyone how they know more and that God is not real.

But that sounds like you,(your pride wont allow you to see anything but you own views,(whether they are right or wrong).

---

Sorry,but I don't want nothing to do with religion as it has and will always cause misery in this world.

Deaths in the name of religion has always been wrong but millions have being killed in it's name,(and it's still

happening).

What would the world be like without religion?

It would be a safe place to be and live.

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can you list major conflicts in recorded history

and how many were caused by religion?

i would like to see your claim put into perspective.

[the_bob_delusion]

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@**bob_on_the_go** wrote:

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@lind9650 wrote:

Lion, I don't deny that Jesus Christ lived. It has been archaelogical proven.

What I don't believe is that the Bible is entirely the word of God.

It's a book full of contradictions, and I don't want to go into the nasty parts of it.

BTW, Jesus was not born on the 25th December.

Erica

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Wow, this is news to me. 

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And he was not even born in year 0.  Apparently he was born more like 5 B.C.  LOL   And as most what has been written about him was written 60+ years later, who knows what is true.  But there is some evidence that man named Jesus did live in that time.

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Is it so hard to believe that a revolutionary Rabbi preached around that time??? And it isn't even new that a person claim to be God. It's happened hundreds if not many thousands of times or even more throughout history and even before Jesus' time. How exactly can you actually prove Jesus is the son of God???? 

BTW you say that Jesus' existence has been proven archeology. What do you know that I don't. I find it hard to believe that something as big as God visiting us and not a single contemporary historian or record keeper of the time wrote about him or even kept one artifact belonging to him or have something Jesus' wrote.

What if I told you that we landed on the moon but there's not one newspaper article written about it until a generation later. Don't you think that's a bit weird????

[the_bob_delusion]

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@lionofjudah60 wrote:

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@*stuff*books* wrote:

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@lionofjudah60 wrote:

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To answer your first question. or statement I think "he's"had enough time to show that and that rhetoric has been going on since the "beginning" of religion.

The time has ALWAYS been the time appointed.It could not have been sooner than HE planned.The dates are in the Bible.Encoded but there.And what is happening in the world is proof that the time is almost here.You just refuse to look.

Why look for something I have no interest in,(you're the expert and you can't convince any of the ones that believes in the

bible and that's where your rhetoric should be directed).

Secondly you stated,But that sounds like you,(your pride wont allow you to see anything but you own views,(whether they are right or wrong).

I PROVED GOOD FRIDAY CANNOT BE CORRECT! The MATH proves it.I proved the rest using nothing but the Bible.Instead of telling me I am wrong SHOW me where I am wrong as I SHOWED you that the traditional teachings are wrong.

SHOW me how it could be a FRIDAY!SHOW me how the BIRTH could have been 4bc or 0.SHOW me how Malachi spoke of John the Baptist.SHOW me where the Bible speaks of a person called THE ANTICHRIST!

I SHOWED THEY ARE WRONG!Refute it.

Why?

By stating these you are saying that their bible must be false as it's stating incorrect information,(is your bible the same as

theirs?)

If you think/know you are correct then you need to convince them,not us.

No wonder there is so many different forms of the same religion as they all have different views on what the bible means,(as

did the ones that translates it from the original langauge).

---

I forgot to say this.You stated

"Deaths in the name of religion has always been wrong but millions have being killed in it's name,(and it's still

happening)."

This is nonsense.This is oft stated but nonsense.Tell me where the millions of deaths have been.The majority is atheists doing this.The majority of wars have always been non religious.Now yes it is Islam.But in history the majority have not been religious wars.Quite the opposite.

---

I stated Deaths in the name of religion has always been wrong but millions have being killed in it's name,(and it's still

happening).

I'm not talking about the majority like Hitler,Pol Pot and others who where zealots that believed their own form of genocide.

So these millions of people didn't die?

http://addictivelists.com/10-biggest-religious-wars-ever-fought/

Current "hot spots".

http://www.religioustolerance.org/curr_war.htm

---

Their Bible is not wrong.Their interpretation and translation is wrong and provable.

I do not have to convince them if they dont want to listen and people like BOB need to be shown because he calls the Bible a lie.So I can show him that he does not know what he is talking about.If you are not interested then DO NOT READ!Dont read and then tell me I cannot post it.YOU do not pay my bills and therefore YOU do not have the right to tell me what to do.

As for deaths in the name of religion yiou said millions have been killed in the name of religion.MANY MANY MORE have been killed by atheists.You conveniently forget that.

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Do you have the correct translation and interpretation of the bible?

I can't think of anyone that's killed in the name of Atheism???? 

[rabbitearbandicoot]

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@**bob_on_the_go** wrote:

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@***super_nova*** wrote:

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@**bob_on_the_go** wrote:

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@lind9650 wrote:

Lion, I don't deny that Jesus Christ lived. It has been archaelogical proven.

What I don't believe is that the Bible is entirely the word of God.

It's a book full of contradictions, and I don't want to go into the nasty parts of it.

BTW, Jesus was not born on the 25th December.

Erica

---

Wow, this is news to me. 

---

And he was not even born in year 0.  Apparently he was born more like 5 B.C.  LOL   And as most what has been written about him was written 60+ years later, who knows what is true.  But there is some evidence that man named Jesus did live in that time.

---

Is it so hard to believe that a revolutionary Rabbi preached around that time??? And it isn't even new that a person claim to be God. It's happened hundreds if not many thousands of times or even more throughout history and even before Jesus' time. How exactly can you actually prove Jesus is the son of God???? 

BTW you say that Jesus' existence has been proven archeology. What do you know that I don't. I find it hard to believe that something as big as God visiting us and not a single contemporary historian or record keeper of the time wrote about him or even kept one artifact belonging to him or have something Jesus' wrote.

What if I told you that we landed on the moon but there's not one newspaper article written about it until a generation later. Don't you think that's a bit weird????

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"claim to be God." - do you know something I don't know Bob?? Where exactly did Jesus claim to be God?