self regulation

[wilk1149]

Does it actually achieve anything. Maybe the government could save all the money spent on the police force by letting the public self regulate

[poddster]

Vigilante style?

Hmm it may solve the rapid population explosion.

[lloydslights]

Would that be with or without a judicial system as well?

DEB

[poddster]

Yep wild west justice.

"Slap leather podner or eat lead"

[softail-joanie]

You should look up "Adam Kokesh" on Youtube, you should actually talk to him, he speaks out for this very thing. That we as humanity have for the most part outgrown government. How we can do it more effeicently, and with much less injustice. Police only respond to crime, they can't stop it and wouldn't if they could,they would only get in  on it. By their very nature, cops rape, they are rapists, rape by definition is a display of force against another. They use force with a badge, gun, and their gang of other cops behind them.

[creative*crisis]

Well undertakers should get increased business.

Seriously do you think human beings demonstrate enough self control and moral fibre to make it work?

[poddster]

If they did we would not have the systems that we have in place now and we would be sporting our high caliber peacemakers in plain view on both hips.

[chameleon54]

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@softail-joanie wrote:

By their very nature, cops rape, they are rapists, rape by definition is a display of force against another. They use force with a badge, gun, and their gang of other cops behind them.

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Many police are very good, caring and there for the right reasons. Unfortunately there is a large percentage that have the attitude you express. They are thugs and bullys, harrasing and attacking the weak and vulnerable in society. They strip them of humanity, are agressive, violent and grossly over-react. Usually this behavoir goes on, hidden from the wider community as it is those on societies fringe that are the victims. The voiceless, the homeless, mentally unstable and those living in the shadows of the law and society as a whole. Occasionally the police brutality comes into public view if a security camera or mobile phone captures graney images, but this is rare. Police harrasment and brutality goes on constantly. I wonder if the difficult job that they do makes this way or wether the police force as an occupation attracts this type of person ???  

[creative*crisis]

This may be your experience but I really can't believe it's the norm.

The whole idea puts me in mind of "lord of The Flies"

[softail-joanie]

Many police are very good, caring and there for the right reasons.

A good caring and kind rapist, is still a rapist. I used to let myself be taken in by the cops who did seem to be as you describe in my above quote. Thing is they answer to those who are less kind, good, or caring, and you can never know if they are trying to put you at ease, trick, or bait you. Mostly they will tell lies about you not being arrested, the nature of the arrest, the length of time you will be locked up before a court hearing, being reliesed soon after, like the next morning, making you think it will be only an overnight stay in a comfortable jail. lies about your side going on their report so you can dispute their actions later, they will, not might pump you full of lies, posibilly to gain your cooperation. they don't want a hard time putting their victim nude in a freezing cage, who they see as low life criminal scum that deserves the treatment they plan to dish out, and don't even deserve the truth of what is about to happen to them.

Why would cops care about actually arresting the right person?, when they can snatch you up and abuse you for at least a week, or maybe longer anytime they want? And worse, get away with it. I live with this every day of my life, what they did, what they took, and helpless to do anything about not only whats in the past, but what the future holds. Whats the motivation for police not to do this again? and when will it happen?, when will I have to go through another hellish nightmare?

Not that anyone is treated good or fair in jail, but I'm paticualrly singled out for abuse. Because of my gender identity, I don't go into what they call "general population", on eather side. Means I spend 5 times longer in a holding cell, waiting for a space to clear up in a detention cell. Uasally with no clothing, or blanket, only a rug, on the primise that i might hurt myself with fabric. But the freezing cold don't concern them in the least.

 I wonder if the difficult job that they do makes this way or wether the police force as an occupation attracts this type of person ?

I don't see their job as all that dificult, Drive around, responding to what gets called in, uasally a complaint thats un justified or un founded, throw their weight around, and go on tto the next call. Fill out incident reports, uasally with lies that will follow a person their entire life. If someone makes their "you know what" list, they may go to stores and warn that that someone is up to no good and ask the managment to trespass them, so they might get the chance to arrest them at a later time. Setting those up for long term abuse, I know, I live it.

If a genuine good cop, does somehow slip through the cracks, they won't last long, It's a systen that only allows for the most corrupt, sadistic, and perverted to get in and advance. Look up "Rigina Taska" for an example of this very thing.

It is hard to become a cop, the requirements are rigorious, thats because they not only want the most sadistic, but the smartest as well. Those cops who can learn and know just how to get away with their abuse, not make a mistake that gets the department in trouble, law suits and bad publicity.

My take is, although self regulation as this topic suggests, may not be perfect, and there would be some bugs to work out, it would have to be better than the corrupt system that often makes me wish i were dead.