so are we going to see a lot of homeless young people ?

[lakeland27]

People under 30 who are unemployed will have to wait six months to be eligible for  Newstart benefits, and will only be able to claim it for six months before the benefit is cut for another six months. This six-month cycle of getting benefits cut and returned will continue until someone gets a job or turns 30.

[*elizabeths-mum*]

Am3, because of a program which our local university had with local schools, not all scholarships were advertised and it was often chance and hearsay that the people who did apply for them knew to do so. Hence my aggravation.

[*crikey*mate*]

*puts hard hat on*

I KNOW that this is going to get howled down - however

one option is applying to the defence force.

(Yes I know not suitable for everyone and not everyone will get accepted)

BUT

think about it

if you get in

They pay for your uni degree.

You only have to do training during the summer break for 12 weeks

They also pay you sometyhing like $45,000 a year whilst you study

they provide subsidized food and acommodation

3 flights home a year

and when you finish the degree, you get your first job guaranteed

if your degree is 4 years, you have to commit to another 4 years after that, but it is a first job ihn the bag, and if you don't like it, leave after 4 years ionce you find another job to go to

and if you choose wisely, it is unlikely you will have to go to the frontline of a conflict.

fior every 10 people in the defence force, only one of those ever ses the front line.

I reckon that might be an ok optioon for a kid from a town with no job prospects

[cherry*135]

A very high youth unemployment rate in the area I live in (boris may also be aware of that). The jobs are not there. Even for other age groups, not many permanent jobs.

[cherry*135]

Yes, bella, I put NSW in that post,  as I realise costs/subsidies are different in other states. It was an addition to boris's earler post.

[*elizabeths-mum*]

Just looking at the scholarships on offer at the university my daughter attended which would have been available for my daughter when she was studying, there is sport, indigenous, financial hardship or principals recommendation. None of which she was suitable for despite being an extremely high achieving award winning student.

[*crikey*mate*]

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@i-need-a-martini wrote:

Yes but what you will find is that the majority of advertised scholarships are industry scholarships rather than university scholarships. No industry sponsors means no scholarship.

And yes there are cash scholarships which are one offs and are usually under $1000 that target low income or indigenous undergrad students - usually under a banner called 'diversity'. But they are very few and are hard to get - pretty much every second student applies either before commencing their course or during their first year.  Either way it is a piddling amount and is usually based on 50% of the cost of one subject per semester. So for example if you are a law student and one of your subjects costs $5000, you will get $2500. Sadly you still have another 3 subjects at $5000 each to pay for that year!

But a scholarship that covers a year or so of your degree/research isn't advertised in the same way. These are the scholarships I refer to. And this is where the big money is.

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My kid and I are on full scholarships

me for a double degree, which was law/commerce, but as I have finished the coomerce am now on law/criminology

when I was in either business or commerce school subjects, there were also scholarships and bursaries from the business school

kid adbanced engioneering majoring in nanothechnology and mechatronics

he also got a host of other stuff depending ion which uni he went to

but so far has a few others not even spent including one for $6000 for a computer or equipment

and a $5000 start up one

both of us also share between 2 dif unis, and get schiolarhisps/bursaries at both

so that's university scholarships

and also specific school scholarships/bursaries - ie law, business and engioneering - non idea about other schools in the uni

[*elizabeths-mum*]

I'm still intrigued that martini seems to believe that you don't need to apply for scholarships.

[boris1gary]

crikey, my son considered it, when they were advertising the 1 year apprenticeship scheme (the armed forces), but for various reasons he decided no. I admit I was happy about it because there was no guarantee that they wouldn't be sent abroad. Even so, this would hardly scratch the surface and it isn't for everyone.

[*crikey*mate*]

oh, and neither BC nor I are Indigenous, and BC does 4 subjects a semester - so 8 a year at one uni, (I usually do 5 as i am on a double degree) but we also might spread thatv load between the two local unis, and as one is private, it has 3 semesters a year, so we usually pick up extra subjects in the january semester

[*crikey*mate*]

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@*elizabeths-mum* wrote:
Just looking at the scholarships on offer at the university my daughter attended which would have been available for my daughter when she was studying, there is sport, indigenous, financial hardship or principals recommendation. None of which she was suitable for despite being an extremely high achieving award winning student.

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maybe it is the age of shopping for universioties?

I don't know, I just know the ones my kid applied to and the ones we go to