unions and labor

[*mrgrizz*]

http://www.perthnow.com.au/news/western-australia/joe-mcdonald-fined-30000-over-bullying-cfmeu-hit-w...

why was he allowed to rejoin after being expelled in 2007?

[poddster]

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@freakiness wrote:

All these silly demands are from another time, decades ago.

Times have changed and members of unins these days don't tolerate trivial nonsense like cream puff demands.  

In the news you don't hear about the good they do. They only make the news when there is trouble of some sort.  It's not often reported when they help members or the families of members.  

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Now days the demands are much more covert, you dont hear about them so much because they are in the form of bribes to union officials and union administration, funding fot the Labor party and the "needs" of officials. Anyone remember Thompson?

[lakeland27]

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@punch*drunk wrote:

And not all the stories are decades old either, using bikies for stand over men is a relatively new thing and I know someone who was harrassed by one on behalf of a union just last year.

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  20 years  ago i was working on a rail project and the biggest problem we had with workers was a bit of rivalry between bikers and pacific islander and torres strait islander guys. they worked extremely hard, but after hours they wouldn't talk to each other and didn't get on, sometimes this spilled over onto the sites, the union reps sorted it out .. kept a lid on it if you like. they were invaluable in keeping the job on schedule..  nobody else could have. bikers stand over people where ever they are, and often control private labour hire companies. like organised crime has always done they attempt to control industries, the problem isn't generally unions its crims trying to take over.

[boris1gary]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

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@punch*drunk wrote:

And not all the stories are decades old either, using bikies for stand over men is a relatively new thing and I know someone who was harrassed by one on behalf of a union just last year.

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  20 years  ago i was working on a rail project and the biggest problem we had with workers was a bit of rivalry between bikers and pacific islander and torres strait islander guys. they worked extremely hard, but after hours they wouldn't talk to each other and didn't get on, sometimes this spilled over onto the sites, the union reps sorted it out .. kept a lid on it if you like. they were invaluable in keeping the job on schedule..  nobody else could have. bikers stand over people where ever they are, and often control private labour hire companies. like organised crime has always done they attempt to control industries, the problem isn't generally unions its crims trying to take over.

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 and it's the police that are meant to find and catch these criminals, not workers and their Unions.

[lakeland27]

often the union reps act when the police are too scared. which was most of the time.

[poddster]

Do you think Thompson was "acting" or dead serious in his chosen pursuits?

May be he should have used that as his defence in court

[boris1gary]

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@lakeland27 wrote:

often the union reps act when the police are too scared. which was most of the time.

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Local government is a hotbed of corruption and criminal activity, is this the next thing for the conservatives beloved  "axe".

[silverfaun]

The unions and their corrosive actions are really just a prop for Labor, a protection racket gouging money from workers to prop up the Labor party. It's as simple as that.

If we have a worplace Federal minister and  States ministers and laws are made to protect workers and we have an oversight committee to see that workers are safe why on earth do we still have unions? an anachronistic throwback to dark ages.

No matter what is said about how unions are needed, that is only said by unions and their bully boy entourages. Unions should be outlawed like the bikie gangs, they serve no purpose any more for the workers they are only there to get money for Labor.

[poddster]

Axing corruption is bad??

Is that a union edict?

[lakeland27]

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@boris1gary wrote:

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@lakeland27 wrote:

often the union reps act when the police are too scared. which was most of the time.

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Local government is a hotbed of corruption and criminal activity, is this the next thing for the conservatives beloved  "axe".

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 two local councillors stood as indipendants where i live, 4 or 5 days later they 'anounce ' that they are liberals . they lacked the nerve to say so beforehand.

[freakiness]

The Tas Chamber of Commerce directors didn't face much scrutiny over their missing $700000.