when did we become slobs?

[davidc4430]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-27/coogee-beach-booze-ban-after-disgraceful-christmas-day/8149670

there is allways a 'few' that do the wrong thing but this is just rediculous!

[davidc4430]

"Are you saying that the Council should not have taken the action that it did?"

How did you come to that conclusion?

i absolutly agree with the councils actions.

my comment was about the people who in the future are told they cant take booze to these places complain we live in the nanny state.

they need to be shown why the rules were brought in.

[bright.ton42]

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@davidc4430 wrote:

well it would be good if every person who in the future complains about the 'nanny state' get given a copy of this story with the photos.

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Absolutely.   It's disgusting and no excuse.   I don't believe for one moment that it's only the fault of the backpackers, Aussies can be as sloppy as the next person.  Just a thought and not making any excuse for ther slobs but would it help if there were more bins there,  large ones?  I can't even see one in the photo though it's a bit blurred. 

[youcandoityoucandoityoucandoit]

No hypocrisy: its disgusting. People who litter are ignorant, selfish and dirty.

No comparison either between the 150 TONNES of rubbish left at Flemington Racecourse after the 2016 Melbourne Cup, which took 750 cleaners to sort out left by people who paid to enter, and the 15 TONNES of rubbish left at Coogee Beach and the park nearby which is a Public amenity, and free to access. 15 or 150 TONNES of litter is a disgraceful amount.

As for 'Nanny state'- pfft bring on nanny! 

[lane-ends]

The hypocrisy comment is aimed at the media coverage. Both are drunken loutish behaviors and should not be encouraged. If people can act like drunken pigs at the races of course they are going to do the same on christmas eve.

Not everyone at the races was a slob but they still had to put up with it, and not be seen to be wowsers, because somehow it is 'the norm'

[daydreams_12]

I am not surprised but totally disgusted at the scenes in the link you posted.  I lived 500 yards from Coogee beach for the first 50 years of my life.  What was to us an absolute heaven now looks little better than a local tip.  The whole area has definately changed for the worse over the last 20 or 25 years.  I still visit the area at odd times but after this I am not too sure I could stand to see it. 

I had better leave it there or I might say something I will be sanctioned for.

[johcaschro]

"Thousands of drunken revellers packed the popular eastern suburbs beach on Sunday afternoon, leaving a trail of destruction and the council with 15 tonnes of rubbish to clean up."

This was an expected event. an event expected and supported by or at least allowed by the local Council. The number of attendees was predictable.

So, why didn't the Council supply enough rubbish bins to cope with the totally predictable and presumably  expected amount of litter?

Who's really to blame here?

[icyfroth]

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@johcaschro wrote:

"Thousands of drunken revellers packed the popular eastern suburbs beach on Sunday afternoon, leaving a trail of destruction and the council with 15 tonnes of rubbish to clean up."

This was an expected event. an event expected and supported by or at least allowed by the local Council. The number of attendees was predictable.

So, why didn't the Council supply enough rubbish bins to cope with the totally predictable and presumably  expected amount of litter?

Who's really to blame here?

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Slobs that are too lazy pick up the rubbish they create, and take it to the nearest bin.

[davidc4430]

when i was growing up we as family picked up our 'rubbish' and if there wasnt a bin under our noses (as it seems people today expect) we took it HOME! and binned it in our own bin.

[springyzone]

There's a growing trend for parks and areas to do away with public bins. Some have signs saying to take it home & claim they are being environmentally responsible by this approach.

I don't see how, as rubbish is rubbish, no matter whose bin it goes in.

But I have read also that sometimes public bins are set alight. Plus of course there are wages to pay if a council employs people to empty bins.

Banning alcohol would be a good start but it isn't the whole story.

 I think we have to be realistic about things. If a big event is planned in an area and you know thousands of people are going to flock to it, especially young people, then they are not going to carry their rubbish around with them all night. They may even be going on to another event.

Councils or organisers need to provide large rubbish containers & several of them, so no one has to travel too far to get to one. They need to publicise the expectations beforehand.

Then fine anyone seen walking away from their litter.

If people know there is a reasonable chance they will be caught and fined, they will make an effort. Not before.

[youcandoityoucandoityoucandoit]

It's not about 'blame' it's about responsibility.

If people decide 'hey, lets go down to Coogee, take wine/ beer/ chips/ sandwiches etc and have a picnic/ party whatever, there's going to be heaps of people and music..we can all have a good time' what makes them think they are not responsible for the empty bottles, and wrapper from their party? They can bring the **bleep** with them- why can't they carry the empty **bleep** home? 

Because Council doesn't provide enough bins for them? Assuming they would even use the bins is wishful thinking.

It's not a lack of bins- it's a lack of intelligence, and an ignorant attitude that someone else will pick up after them.