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[davewil1964]

Off topic I know, but it is a shame that some of you hide your selling ID's.

i tend to find that if I'm liking someone's opinion on these boards I go look at what you are selling, and as one of you will soon figure out I just bought something.....spare of the moment because I liked it.

but when it's private I can't snoop which means I can't impulse buy 

just saying....

But what if you don't like somebody's opinion? Or somebody else doesn't like an opinion enough to decide to purchase for the purpose of leaving a neg? A lot of seller's don't post on the boards using their primary selling ID. I don't.

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[wardy079]

Oh good point.... Didn't think about buying to leave negative because they annoyed me on the boards.... I actually sticky beak at just about anyones anyway.... Just cause I'm a shopoholic and really want to be a bigger seller so I check out what people are selling

[viewmont1071]

But what if you don't like somebody's opinion? Or somebody else doesn't like an opinion enough to decide to purchase for the purpose of leaving a neg? A lot of seller's don't post on the boards using their primary selling ID. I don't.

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If you posted on this thread with your selling ID and saved the rhetoric for your alias..then how would anybody know.???

BTW the mere fact that you have not got the conviction or trust to believe that malicious bidding or buying will be addressed by ebay as per their policies speaks volumes.

http://pages.ebay.com.au/help/policies/unwelcome-buying.html

Additionally, members are prohibited from bidding on or purchasing an item to disrupt or to leave non-positive feedback or detailed seller ratings for the seller, with no intention of completing the transaction.

The proof is in the pudding, look at the amount of selling and buying ids using the boards?

Do they outweigh I believe a small amount of "flat earthers' still use a forum user ID?...

Watch as check out the threads look at the numbers

Think about it how can anybody who had a query with their selling account,feedback or buying account post anonymously???.

If malicious buying was a problem then nobody could get help because they would be stupid to reveal their selling account.

The inquisitors need an item number or listing description to do an advanced search to reveal the "snooped' problems and selling ID.... so that they can pull apart other parts of the "snooped" listings...then the "snooped" feedback which inevitably brings the desired  defence and argument from said "snoopee" while the inquisitors hide their listings, feedback and practices behind anonymity ???/ like WTF

When the anonymous argumenter looks like they are getting a flogging along chimes another with this little gem that often knocks the stuffing oput of the enquirer

....... "Doh dumbo don't you know about posting ids... I can assure you that blah blah blah is bigger and better then "Griffo" and has more ebay experience than "Pierre" himself... so listen to them... 😐 anonymously  :_| :_|

I think it, for some, suits their personality traits rather than the pretense of worrying about malicious bidding or buying.

Personally I have been using these forums since 2004 with this selling id ie the round table days....when the posting id info was actually a sticky on the top of the board

.... it dissappeared in 2006... odd.....so did some of the posting ids.......

because it was generally considered (surprisingly not by many poosting ids though :|) that is was unfruitful and counterproductive for members to give anonymous information and inflamed argument rather than promoting debate

[viewmont1071]

Please excuse another off topic post

I forgot.. some would not know who "griff" "o"

http://www.unclegriff.com/

or "Pierre" are (Pierre Omiydar)

Feb 28 10.04 2008

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/fasterforward/2008/02/fee_feedback_changes_at_ebay.html

Feedback. You remember. The brilliant idea Pierre had when starting auction web, (Now eBay) - way back when.

It was a system where we could rate our trading partners and they could rate us. It was simple in the beginning. You could leave feedback for anyone. You didn't even have to buy from them or sell to them. A little later on it became transactional.

The comments built a trust between members - (read cu$tomer$.) Feedback was permanent.You couldn't change or remove it. Unless you cussed or mentioned an investigation & a few other things no one I know ever did.

This new feedback thing was an amazing concept. It made the average Joe or Mary selling stuff from their garage, home or trailer look like a respectable large merchant.

(Think L.L. Bean.) People would talk to other eBayer's in line at the post office. What's your feedback? 216! Wow, mines only 84... We would "log on" each day to see if our feedback number changed overnight. It was a source of pride. Feedback - who would've thought?

Feedback became the backbone this new web phenomenon was built on. And eBay grew by leaps & bounds.

The feedback system was viewed by some as flawed.

Well after all, nothing is perfect. But Pierre's feedback system was very, very close. Brilliant in concept , execution & yes, even consequence.

Yes, you could leave a negative or a neutral for someone - before trying to work the problem out. They could neg or neuter you back though.

And both of you kept that red or gray mark back then. If selling - it could affect your business. When buying, sellers might cancel your bid - if they thought you were a troublemaker.

Well, no one much liked those things to happen to them, so people worked their problems out like adults & not too many bad feedback were left.

There was peace in the community. And after awhile, even the skeptics viewed feedback as sacred....

Then, a couple of years ago, the tinkerers that Pierre hired to run eBay decided they would tinker with the feedback system.

They thought they were smarter than Pierre, I guess. No one really knows what brought on this idea to change the feedback system.

It could have been some overcooked Eggs Benedict at an executive brunch, or perhaps something in the air conditioning system. At any rate they decided change was needed. Change is always good - right? Besides, things were different now. Or were they?

They let a new company called Square Trade remove feedback in certain cases. Of course there was a fee. They tell me eBay didn't get a commission from Square Trade. I suppose that is true...

About the same time eBay instituted a program called "Mutual feedback withdrawal." Some say this was initiated at the request of larger sellers to give them a means of getting rid of bad feedback, without paying a fee to Square Trade. I really don't know....

What happened next isn't hard to fathom, knowing human nature. Negative feedback soon started being exchanged in record numbers.

Sellers, especially some larger ones - became a little bit more difficult to deal with.

Customer service? What's that? Hey, if someone negged you you just negged them back. After all, you could get a mutual withdrawal.

Many sellers had hundreds of mutual withdrawals. They played this great new feature like a well oiled trombone....And no one at eBay regulated this process - or limited the numbers.

Soon buyers began to complain about this unfair treatment. Some left eBay and never came back. Management seeing all of this, decided the feedback system needed a little more tweaking.

And that brought us to where we are today. More tinkering to try and fix what THEY broke.

You know what I think? It won't work. Sometimes, you need to get back to basics. Sometimes, the simplest ideas are the best.

The Genie however, is out of the bottle, the sacred trust is broken.

Can it be put back, before it's too late?

I really don't know. A smart person would try .....

Posted by: Matchboxcarguy | February 28, 2008 10:04 AM |

[dakabeach]

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[songqi13]

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[davewil1964]

If you posted on this thread with your selling ID and saved the rhetoric for your alias..then how would anybody know.???

I do, so they probably don't.

[not_an_eloi]

they do, you know.

btw, don't forget to add in the other two sales  B-)

[joz*garage]

zilch

be another 15 days untill im right for the next lot of freebies Lol

[songqi13]

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